When we lived in MO., we had an outdoor horse arena. Black Raspberries kept growing up around it. I am not sure when they were planted, but we had to do the dirt work for the arena. Every year, we had to chop them back. You could not see through them. They would also make a good barrier to keep out those who went to the mall instead of prepping.....just sayin.... It would look more harmless to neighbors than razor wire. Yes, I have actually considered that, but my husband nixed it. Maybe research berries with thorns that grow in poor soil. Just a thought...