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Prepping => Food and Water => Topic started by: Surveyor1 on January 10, 2022, 05:10:43 PM
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I was at the grocery store today in my small little section of Georgia. Today was By Far the worst that I have seen! Twice as many bare spots as any of the worst of the previous days! It’s getting kinda real my fellow preppers. It’s not just here as this article will show!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bare-shelvesbiden-trends-alarming-number-people-report-empty-shelves
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No chicken to be had at my local Kroger except a few packages of wings or chicken tenders. Scary!!
Ravenwood
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Food Depot in our area was almost 1/4 empty last week. Thor dropped me off there. I told him that I would have to go somewhere for fresh vegetables in a few days, as they just didn't have much. Their fruit was also poor and limited. They had a few packages of chicken wings that you could not force feed me. I think they died of natural causes over Christmas.
Seriously this is getting worse quickly. It is also encouraging people to just grab when they see something, despite the highest prices we have ever seen!
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No chicken to be had at my local Kroger except a few packages of wings or chicken tenders. Scary!!
Ravenwood
Damn it Ravenwood, I haven’t been able to find wings at our 3 stores for 2 weeks!!! I did find a pack to cook for the Orange Bowl but had to pay $5.00/LB! I was proud to have them🤦♂️😳🙄!
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I didn’t really notice meat issues on my last shopping trip, but canned goods were still running low. I also noticed breakfast cereals and pastas were very low. Walmart was doing a very good job of keeping shelves fronted to give the illusion of full shelves. I read somewhere last week (and I have searched and searched for the source and can’t find it) that the military has declared commissaries to be mission critical. The concern was over maintaining adequate stocks in stores with “current supply chain issues”. Declaring something “Mission Critical” is pretty big deal. I’ll continue to search for my source on that.
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Remember last year when I shared the link to Target n the dried beans? Will I went in there today and looked…. Most of those beans I bought for $.99 per pound are now $1.59 per pound! My math is kinda fuzzy but that looks like 60% food inflation to me😳😳! Just remember though, a lot of food items Today are cheaper than they will be in the foreseeable future! Prep accordingly…
https://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=dry+beans
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Just got back from Wally World, slim pickings on a lot of shelves, not a chicken wing to be found, little chicken overall but tons of salmon and $11.99lb steaks - probably because no one is buying the more expensive cuts. They had SOME of every kind of the basics (beans, paper goods, pasta, etc.) but again, only the higher priced brands, none of the store or less expensive brands. Frozen/prepared section look seriously ill.
Bakery and fresh veggies completely stocked - bakery prices are normal, didn't check the veggies. Not well stocked on eggs but the cheap brand is still $1.82/18.
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I bought a flank steak at Food Depot and also one at Kroger. They put them on sale. I fed four people with two one inch slices left over. Use 1/4 cup soy sauce, 4 Tlb spoons of vegetable oil, three cloves of sliced garlic and I/4 cup brown sugar. Mix together and marinate the meat for a few hours or over night. Grill around 7 minutes
on each side. We keep ours medium rare in the middle, so the kids can have medium.There are other recipes on line. I think we cup it again the grain, but check as it makes a difference. This makes for a tender, good tasting streak meal that does not break the bank. I used low sodium soy sauce.
I have been reading articles about expectations for food shortages to be worse next month. With all time records of Covid and numbers to spike next week, this is a very believable prediction. Laundry soap seems extra low right now and there is a prediction of shortages of dishwashing soap. Not sure if they meant dishwasher, or washing by hand.
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Just got home from my local Food Depot. No pre-bagged lettuce mixes, low on tortillas, plenty of canned goods; rice/beans; good on frozen veggies, crackers nearly gone. A stocker was putting out 6 cases of chicken thighs and the rest of the meat department looked well stocked, frozen section was a little low on frozen dinners, no Marie Callendar's chicken pot pies :(
I even got two of the yummy frozen breakfast cheese danish that I adore. Still no Little Debbie Donut Sticks to be found. They had plenty of produce but I don't buy much produce there as they prepackage it and I like to pick out my own. I find that Food Depot is most always well stocked when Walmart and Kroger are low on things.
Ravenwood
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Our local Food Lion only had a few empty shelves, but a lot of shelves where there was stuff at the front of the shelves but nothing behind it. I haven't looked since the winter storm craze. One of the benefits of prepping, not having to go to the food store when everyone else is in panic mode. I found a local farmer and bought half a cow. A lot of money up front but the price per pound almost reminded me of 2021.
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We went to Costco yesterday. They had a lot of everything except ground beef. They did have some organic ground beef but I’m not paying $7/pound. We bought one of the last two six pound packs they had of 80/20. Also picked up some ground turkey. Plenty of chicken so we picked up a few more packs just to continue stocking. Same with beef roasts. Luckily, we are just filling holes and stocking up a little more than normal just in case.
The Kroger was down to about 30% in their meat department. If you aren’t a member of Sam’s or Costco, I recommend it. They will get wiped out far slower than the grocery stores out there due to the $60/year membership fee.
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Just got back from our grocery trip….
Harvey’s- very scary! Overall I would guesstimate 40-50% bare shelves! Frozen foods section (excluding ice cream section) over 90% empty! Ice cream 50% empty. No shelf stable juices at all. They had hundreds of yellow stickers on various aisles stating “out of stock due to manufacturers shortages.” Dairy 75% bare shelves. Meat was not too bad but prices were still steep except for the 80/20 they had on sale for $3.48lb. Produce was not bad.
IGA - overall good stocks but prices very high for example regular bag chili cheese Fritos $4.49…. Meat section cleaned out except for a few rump roast at $7.79lb. Produce was sad but probably caused by lack of foot traffic in store (bad management)
Walmart - overall I would say the worst I’ve seen it. Lots of empty shelves and very low stocks. Of note - milk section looked pretty empty but looking behind the display racks the had plenty of product🤔. Meat …. No chicken, no steaks (2 packs), plenty of ribs if you want to,pay $5.18 per LB…. Produce 50% empty. Bread gone! No cold juice and no shelf stable juice. Crackers and cookies 75% empty. First time ever seeing this one, they had 1 - 4 lb bag of sugar and that was it! No other but specialty stock…. Plenty of candy though🙄😳🤔…
It’s going to get worse before it gets much worse. One of my onion suppliers told me he paid $20,000 for a truck to haul a load of onions from Washington state to Rhode Island that is a $25.00 per bag charge! Normal rates 1-1/2 years ago was about $8,000 or $10.00 per bag.
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Thanks for the update in your area. While I was reading your experience at Walmart, I could not help but wonder, if it is due to be closed and deep cleaned. The one in our town, and the town a half hour from here, were both done last week. The stores were closed for up to two days. If they kept their inventory low, the job would be easier.
That having been said, both Kroger and Publics in the town near us, were as low on goods as I have seen. Chicken was the big high, in that it was very fresh and did not look like it died of natural causes. I did get wings, a whole chicken and thighs, but it was highway robbery. I told myself as I slapped the three packages into my cart, that the prices may look like a bargain next month. We are trying to work our way through the freezers, clean them out and start over. These came right into the house freezer and will be used last. Usually, this time of year, I would be doing some different canning of meat meals in a jar. That is not going to happen unless I find a great deal like our new preppier friends on here, we find a great deal.
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I think the snowpocalypse we were supposed to have last weekend probably contributed to some of it, too.
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Last week, I asked if I could get some gallons of milk that was sitting behind the cooler. The young man working back there told me he was not allowed to put more milk out, until the cooler shelf of that item was empty. The remaining milk was going to expire in four days! I pointed this out to the lad who just gave me a blank look.... Expiration dates on many items seem to be shrinking in time...
If any of you get a chance to read some of the articles by The Organic Preppier (Daisy Luther), that came out today. They are worth the read. I really likes the humorous one. She is the site of the moment right now, on top ten prepper blogs, just google.
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Must not be getting too real out there. Just got back from Kroger. Shelves were crappy a week ago, now all back to normal except... pasta.
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I'm getting low on stored pasta. I need to get out the machine to make some fresh - there's NO brand better than your own, even if you make too much and freeze it. Sigh..... and I really need to use up those eggs.
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Must not be getting too real out there. Just got back from Kroger. Shelves were crappy a week ago, now all back to normal except... pasta.
Cereal is still spotty too. Shelves at Publix today were empty in a lot of spots.
Frozen veggies are becoming hit or miss. I had to rely on canned when I made soup last weekend.
On the positive....Canned meats are becoming plentiful again. I've been able to restock my corned beef hash.
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Just when you thought the Biden administration had reached the peak of their insanity, they say, “Hold my beer!”…
Avocados, limes, cilantro, pineapple, broccoli crowns, jalapeño, tomatoes, mango, papaya and many other items in our supermarkets cross the Mexican border every day. The requirement to have cross border truck drivers to be vaccinated is going to be a huge issue. These items will still get across but there will be a cost. The time for these items to get cleared is going to go up significantly. The wait a driver has to endure was already long and it will now be doubled at least. The drivers that are eligible to cross will rightfully demand more compensation. The perishable product will spend twice the time in transit lowering quality and shelf life. Our “just in time” delivery system will now be filled with holes as we wait for product to cross.
Expect supermarket shortages and higher cost due to the increase cost of the logistical side of our supply chain. I focus on the food side of the issues because that is my expertise. Thousands of other non-food items cross over every single day as well. I’m curious to see the effect on lumber since we get a lot from Canada? Aside from food 25% of the imports are machinery and electrical from Mexico and 15% are chemicals and allied products.
I’m not saying this is being purposely done to collapse the system! (Awe who the hell am I kidding, that’s exactly what I am saying😡! ). One could not “accidentally” do what they are doing without understanding the consequences, they are purposely doing this!!!😡
https://www.truckinginfo.com/10160077/no-cross-border-trucking-for-unvaccinated-drivers
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Had to go to the “big town” today, so figured I run as many errands as possible. Went by Wally World hoping to score some sugar. They had a few of the four pound bags at the usual price ($2.00) so I picked up 10. I noticed the canned beans (pinto, black beans etc) that were 50 cents last Sunday were now 68 cents per can. There were plenty. There was still no creamed corn, so I picked up 12 of whole kernel still 50 cents per can and whole new potatoes at 56 cents per can. There was plenty of dry milk at $9.48 for 10qts. That’s the same price that it was pre Covid. Noticed very little rice. Cereal aisle about the same as a week ago. Spam was $3 per can and scarce. I was able to get 3 bacon flavored. There was very little pasta, but got 6 pounds of elbow macaroni at 86 cents per pound and six pounds of Barilla spaghetti at $1.28 per pound. Tang was up from $2.50 a can to $2.82 a can (still cheaper than commissary). Overall, the shelves didn’t look too bad and were at about 75% capacity. Staple items are where the main shortfalls were.
Also hit Lowe’s. The boards that were a little over $10 each on November 1st and then $16.89 last week, are now $18.98. I got what I needed and left.
I overheard two women talking in Walmart saying, “They need to get that stock out of the back and get these shelves stocked”. So even with all the news and talk out there, the general public still seems oblivious. I never heard anyone else complaining about the increased prices or the shelves that were empty. I felt really bad for the little old lady that had enough food in her buggy for about a week and cat food. A week is probably all she keeps at home and the day is coming where she won’t be able to get that same amount of food in one trip. All I can do is pray for the sheeple.
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My local Wally World must have gotten a LOT of trucks in over the past week - they were stocked up on nearly everything although selection on the dry beans was down - not out, they just eliminated the spaces. Frozen prepared food was still low but as I came from the back of the store near milk, I had to make way for 2 guys with huge pallets of boxed frozen stuff, huuuuge!
They are just getting their seed stock out and I found a few things I normally have to order (my beloved Marconi peppers, for one). But Home Depot had a very large display of Burpee and Ferry Morse, with almost everything duplicated in Organic displays - if you prefer that. No bulbs, berries or asparagus yet. I bought a bunch and saved ordering from the more expensive places - I'm checking and reorganizing my seed and realized most of my stuff is 4 years old or more. So I added a viability column to my seed spreadsheet and a Yrs column so I could see at a glance what needs planting NOW. If you are an old timer and attended the seed saving class at campout a few years back, you have a copy of that spreadsheet.....except it's now 13 pages, landscape, lol. I'm planning on bringing copies of the new one to the Region 1 meet next Saturday in Adairsville for those who show up. Hope to hit Lowe's tomorrow to fill in more varieties of some things I'm low on.
I broke down and bought 2 seed tray heating mats - after filling in the info on viability from Seed to Seed (our savers' bible), I decided that only 50% viability after 5 years on a lot of things is worth me doing a test - then I'll know I can keep that seed going this year and not buy more than 1 pack of '22 seed just to keep up. In my zone, we don't even start indoors stuff till Feb so this will give me a jump start. That garden is driving me nuts - it's all ready, just waiting on me.....and the weather to warm up a bit.
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BennyMG finally bought his lumber for the project that he’s working on. If anyone else is needing lumber rest assured that the price is going to crater now that BennyMG bought his! That’s how it usually works, right BennyMG?🤦♂️🤔🤦♂️
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BennyMG finally bought his lumber for the project that he’s working on. If anyone else is needing lumber rest assured that the price is going to crater now that BennyMG bought his! That’s how it usually works, right BennyMG?🤦♂️🤔🤦♂️
I am getting ready to frame up and dry in a barn. Just waiting on the crater to form.
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Got our additional solar panels today, ahead of scheduled delivery date. Everything else has been running behind, or we were shorted. Now we just have to find someone to mount the new ones on our shed roof! People say they are coming out and we never hear from them again....Not a novel situation, I understand this..
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Went shopping today at my local Food Depot. They were pretty well stocked. Lots of fresh salad greens, good supply of meat, bacon a little low (that's why I keep 4-5 packages in the freezer). I did notice the fruit drink or other special drinks were low, I don't buy those anyway. Plenty of baking supplies, sugar, flour. Had restocked the tortillas that they were out of the last time I went. Frozen veggies looked fine. The only thing I couldn't find were Q-tips which my son using in his work shop. I even got some nice boneless ribs for $2.49 pound.
Ravenwood
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One thing I'll say, I've became a HUGE fan of the online order/pickup options. Especially at Wally. Not only because it means I don't have to go into that hades-hole, but they have a really good "substitution" policy.
For example....a few weeks back, I ordered 6 cans of Corned Beef Hash. But when they went to pick my order it was out....so they offered me 6 cans of just Corned Beef at the same price...yeah....I jumped on that like a frog in a fly patch. I've had it happen with OTC meds too, like Mucinex and Chloraseptic. Order store brand, it's out, get the name brand at the same store brand price.
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BennyMG finally bought his lumber for the project that he’s working on. If anyone else is needing lumber rest assured that the price is going to crater now that BennyMG bought his! That’s how it usually works, right BennyMG?🤦♂️🤔🤦♂️
I am getting ready to frame up and dry in a barn. Just waiting on the crater to form.
On the 18th of January the market price of lumber was $1,278.00 per 1000 board ft. BennyMG1 bought what he needed and the price went down to $979.90 yesterday! What is that, like a 30% drop??? Hey BennyMG1, RWS wants to know if you are starting anymore projects soon? Figured he’d wait a week or so after you buy anymore lumber to buy his supplies so he could get a great deal?😳🤔🤦♂️🙄….. Best price since December 8…..
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Elandil, Kroger offers the same deal as Walmart. When I was picking up groceries during the first Covid scare, we received lots of good upgrades on out-of-stock goods. One big disadvantage is not being able to pick out your fresh fruits, vegetables and meats. I finally broke down and went in very early in the morning, dressed like something from outer space....googles, gloves and the mask that does not work.
Now, with Covid de jour, I am down to an N-95 mask, made in China and hand sanitizer. Everyone has to find their own comfort zone...
Good selection of goods at Kroger last week, but the bill was about a third higher. They also have a "buy five, get a dollar off each one". If you can find good expiration dates on things you actually use, this is a good deal.
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I just stopped by the feed & seed store. Seed potatoes 50 cents a pound, Silver Queen corn $19.00 a pound.
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Good News BennyMG1 since I wrote my previous post this morning lumber is down another 4.6% to 935.00!!! (Can you go stock up on ribeye??? I need to buy some next week!)🤦♂️
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Boy, you can tell that Surveyor 1 is home nursing his knee....too bad Benny can't come over and give it a kick!
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Boy, you can tell that Surveyor 1 is home nursing his knee....too bad Benny can't come over and give it a kick!
I wouldn’t give him a hard time publicly if I didn’t Love him like a brother! But what I’ve said, we both share the same luck! We buy it and a week later it goes on sale!
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We tend to buy high, sell low...It's a life-time habit., ha!
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The other shoe is dropping! I’m guessing global food shortages will be the norm for the foreseeable future. Oh well, this is why we do what we do…. It will be quite interesting to watch this one play out!?
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/russia-may-ban-wheat-rye-barley-and-corn-exports-until-june-30
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best pasta deal I can find
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Spaghetti-Pasta-1-Lb-4Ct/17179231
in store only, comes back in stock from time to time so F5 once a day
you can order online, but have to pick up in store
you can fit about 35 lbs in a 5gal bucket
toss in a hand warmer and call it good
the straight sticks fit better in buckets than any other shaped pasta, more dense, less air space
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Classico-Tomato-Basil-Spaghetti-Sauce-2-ct-Pack-24-oz-Jars/751179252
these cost more, but come jars that can be reused for canning
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Thanks NJ, good deal on the pasta! Word of caution on any tomato based sauces. They do not store well because of the acid. I’ve learned this the hard way. The same can be said for many types of canned fruit, I’ve had a number blow within 1 years of expiration date. You might want to consider tomato powder if storing a lot of pasta. I researched the powder and in a #10 can it is the equivalent of 28 lbs of tomatoes. I think most of us also grow fresh tomatoes every year. For newbies to growing tomatoes for sauce I would recommend a good Roma variety as they are “meatier”…
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Surveyer 1, I am jumping up and down at the opportunity to correct you!!!! Yah!!!
San Marzano tomatoes are the very best for sauce, bar none. They cook down thicker for spaghetti sauce, soup, pasta sauce, etc. Since canning season also happens during growing season, I often can them whole, then make the sauce later, using my submersible hand held blender, right in the pot. If you check out the most expensive sauces on the shelf, San Marzano is listed as the main ingredient. Any Italian cook worth her salt, will fight for these tomatoes at the market.
Where Amish Paste come in as number one, I.M.H.O., is for drying. Throw on some garlic salt and cheese and it makes a great healthy treat.
Back on subject, our Kroger was looking poor today. They are using the old trick of pushing everything forward and lining them up in a long line. My son was looking for a couple steaks to put on the grill today. There were none to be had, with the exception on on package of T-bone sliced like a fourth inch thick. There was plenty of chicken if you like dummies, stir frier and thighs. I could not get an egg plant or tofu for a dish I wanted to make with the red peppers that were on sale....don't laugh, it's a great dish! Wine selection gets stranger by the day. Crackers are very spotty..
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WELL!!! This 1/2 Sicilian prefers Roma. In her experience, they are more productive in the garden, although smaller than the Amish Paste, which are 2nd best because they are a bit larger. San Marzano is great for canning whole & making stewed (with some Okra & onion) but for homegrown sauces, I prefer the other two. Grandma always mixed in whatever other tomatoes she had, too, as long as you cook them down ENOUGH, most people can't tell.
Surveyor1, it has been known for 20+ years that most homegrown tomatoes are not reliable acid-wise for WATER BATH canning, and that includes our paste tomatoes. It's due to soil, rain etc. Most canning books recommend adding 1tsp lemon juice to pints and 1 TBS to quarts. Since lemon juice doesn't have a very long shelf life, stock up on Ball's Citric Acid - cut the dose in half. I've had jars last as long as 5-6 years with no issues. It's most important if you are adding bits of slicers, beefsteaks, etc. Otherwise, you can pressure can them.
For newbs who don't know - my other 1/2 is Irish (County Cork) so......
HAPPY ST PATRICK'S DAY!!!
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Starlady - I was referring to store bought tomato based products in my post that will blow (probably should have clarified!). When we canned our first tomatoes 10 years ago someone on GPN had told us to use the citric acid😎! I wish I could remember who that was, I’m thinking it was Dholmes as she helped my wife learn the ropes on canning! We still have a couple jars from then that have not blown!
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Star Lady, May the hinges of our friendship never rust. May the wind always be at your back....Also half Irish and have my brisket, cabbage, carrots, and potatoes ready in the slow cooker. My Irish soda bread is next.
I also use some lemon in my tomatoes. Guess everyone needs to try some of each and form their own opinion. I like all three, but for a rich sauce, I turn to San Mars.... I have a recipe from a famous Italian restaurant in Italy that actually adds anchovy. You can not tell it is there and people love her sauce.
I am guessing that people use what has been handed down. My God parents are 100% Italian and had the best Italian joint in a Milwaukee suburb.
One thing we all have to consider is soil. Roma's were my favorite in Iowa, before I discovered San Marzano. I also liked Amish paste. Roma's are great for drying also, as they are meaty. San Mar's are more hollow, but man the flavor!!!!
I also mix a few others for some things due to the combination of flavors.
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All three of these sauce tomatoes are open pollenated, which is the direction in which all of us want to head. Upon Googling all three, I found one site that said the San Marzano are smaller. They didn't use the San Marzano II, for sure. Mine were much larger than my Amish and Roma...All planted the same year, some in big pots, some in raised beds and some in Ga. garden soil. All were good. All were prolific. The San Marzano was very late, but I liked that, since I had so much to put up in the garden.
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The executive director of the UN’s World Food Program is saying that we are now facing “a catastrophe on top of a catastrophe”. Unfortunately, he is not exaggerating. The global price of food was skyrocketing even before the war on the other side of the globe erupted, and now many of the countries that are extremely dependent on agricultural exports from Ukraine and Russia are going to have to turn elsewhere for answers. Meanwhile, severe drought is threatening production in the other major “breadbasket” of the world. We are being warned that the winter wheat harvest in the U.S. could be “disastrous” this year, and that is very unwelcome news. Because if some sort of a miracle does not happen, we will soon see hunger and famine on a scale that once would have been unimaginable to many people.
https://dcdirtylaundry.com/the-un-is-warning-that-we-are-heading-into-the-worst-global-food-crisis-since-world-war-2/
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We are very lucky to live in the U.S. where we can grow a very good selection of our food in country. We are not dealing with scorched earth.. Our weather is changing and farming is a much bigger challenge, thus, the home garden.
I have followed different gardening sites, where folks live in areas where they are pretty limiting in what they can grow year round. Again, we are lucky. We can always have something in the ground to eat, even if that means more greens then we would like for a month or two.
When I was a little girl, I remember my grandmother selling rags, to the "rag man" that would push a cart down the street. She would put the money in a little coin purse and we would walk to the store to get a little something to "put back". She had raised a family during the depression, in the city. My dad lived on a farm and always had food on the table in Iowa. Nine kids...one pair of shoes when school started. We are very lucky, even though things are not looking good....just be prepared.
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Wow Abigayle that’s amazing! I am the youngest of six and I thought we were poor until I read your post!!! Each one of us had a pair of shoes for school! I simply cannot imagine having to share 1 pair with my other 5 siblings much less nine sharing 1 pair!
Ok all joking aside, you are correct that we are lucky! We are also lucky that we have a group that we can hit up for advice and guidance! Tough times are coming and I’m thankful to be as prepared as we are but still terrified of what the future holds!
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Surveyor 1, Sometimes, you just have to spell things out for some people....Each of the nine got a single pair of shoes. The girls used to carry theirs home from school to keep them nicer all year. They would go to the well and pump a bucket of cold water to rinse their feet when they got home, then if last years shoes fit they would wear those on the farm. It not, each one wore the shoes of another child. My dad was the oldest, so one pair only. Dad did not know there was a depression, since they were always poor, but never hungry. All nine grew up to be fine people. Family reunions were full of laughter! Sometimes less is more. They were blessed, since all four boys came home after fighting wars. Surveyor, tell your wife thank you for me....I think she is right about you (private joke:)
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😂😂😂! Lol, being the youngest of 6 I always joked that I was 13 years old before I found out underwear had elastic 😳…. My mom’s reaction, 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️!
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Biden Food Shortages: Walgreens Starts Rationing Baby Formula
Two weeks ago Joe Biden warned Americans to expect “real” food shortages.
He wasn’t kidding.
Two weeks later and Walgreens starts rationing baby formula.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPwLvYCXsAca3hx?format=jpg&name=900x900
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This article adds a little more context to the urgency of the baby formula shortage! I know some people cannot breastfeed for medical reasons but for those that choose not to breastfeed out of “convenience” they had a choice…. Breastfed children tend to be healthier and form a better bond with their mothers. My daughter breastfed her children and for the time when she was at work she pumped and froze. She had enough in the freezer so that if she got sick and had to take medicine her children could get “mothers milk” and not something processed!
(Sorry, didn’t mean to hijack this thread for a sermon on the virtues of breastfeeding 😳!)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/parents-struggle-to-find-baby-formula-amid-national-shortage/ar-AAW0Qv5?ocid=uxbndlbing
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Same thing with baby food, make your own, if you can
Fox new this morning showed a 13% inflation rate for March...I don't think anyone is surprised by those statistics.
While trying to save money, I received an add from a company called BOXED. It offered me 20% on my first order. I could go on and on but to give you an idea of my experience, three large bottles of ketchup will expire in five months. They sent two free samples that expired in '20. Their paper towel rolls are very skinny. About half the products offered are over-priced. Won't order again.
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that walmart pasta went up to 3.12$
32% moar so much for 8.2%
got my eye on this now
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Long-Grain-Enriched-Rice-320-oz/10315883
20lbs for 8.88$ free shipping on 4 of them saves me from paying joe biden gas prices
I hear putin took all the aluminum, so here's bulk aluminum foil
https://www.walmart.com/ip/GEN-Standard-Aluminum-Foil-Roll-12-x-1-000-ft-GEN7112/264950238
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My wife made the tour of the small town grocery stores. She said it is bad, bad, bad. One grocery store a Save-A-Lot the shelves were 50% or more,
Empty!
That fits with the program of keeping the city grocery stores stocked and let the country store go wanting. After all they have gardens in the country....
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Our dollar store was the same, at least 50% empty on Saturday. They have also taken out a lot of the food isles and put in a bunch of junk (sorry if you are a fan). This store spent a small fortune on remodeling the food isles and coolers less than a year ago. Now, a third of that remodel, which had food, has nicknacks.
The Kroger was pretty full last week, but there are some things they don't carry anymore. The selection leaves one ... wanting. I have to remind myself what it was like living in a third world country and how us Gringos had to adapt. Us Gringas would call each other if something came in that was hard to get. America still has it pretty good, if you can afford to buy it. Not sure how long that will be true. Shopping is depressing...
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You really want to see scary! This was our local Harvey’s yesterday!
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you're supposed to be eating bugs
it's good for global warming
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Surveyor 1, did you ask why the shelves were empty? I wonder what they were told. The Dollar Store just said their trucks did not come in.
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Surveyor 1, did you ask why the shelves were empty? I wonder what they were told. The Dollar Store just said their trucks did not come in.
I was waiting for someone to ask…. I was shocked but there actually was an explanation that took away my fear! They had an overnight power outage and all of the product in ALL of their coolers had to be disposed of due to high temperatures. Produce gone, bacon gone, sandwich meat gone, milk gone, ice cream gone…. Anything and everything in their coolers gone!!! I’m sure it was still good but they simply could not take a chance and get sued.. Oh well, I guess that’s why you have insurance huh? I have food insurance, do you😎😎😎?
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So, I asked at the Dollar Store today, when the shelves looked almost identical to last week. The manager said they were getting the trucks in, with product. Dry goods come on Tues, Fresh on Thurs. Here is the rub. They are getting twice as many customers. This is a very small town. The woman who has worked there for a very long time said there are so many new faces and she has seen cars from different counties. They are making the rounds. Her friend who manages the other store, out near the highway, in the other directions, with a different town address, is experiencing the same thing. They have both asked the main office to send more goods each week, as 3/4th are gone it two days. See sees prices continuing to rise and they can not keep up to date on the pricing tags.
Now, about the power outage. I am thinking that was Saturday night, but can check my text messages. Our town and rural area along with one ten miles from here, both went down at the same time. No wind, no rain at the time and no reason was given by the power co. as to why. I think you are a long way from me. I wonder how many others were down. It would flicker, come back on, go off...repeat.
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Oh well, I guess that’s why you have insurance huh?
nah, thats why I have a generator and 50 dollar solar panels
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Power outage shows pour planning on their part . local Wal-Mart has power outage or freezer/ drive goes down the local food ministry gets a call . In u set an hour there is a refer trailer sitting there for them to put the food in tell its back up. Its a good working relationship . They donate short dated meats and produce 3 times a week.
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Another suspicious fire — this one at a fertilizer plant — has raised new suspicions that the country’s food supply system and agriculture industry are purposely being targeted to cause a massive supply issue.
If this was the only food processing plant fire to occur this year or last, this would be non-news. But there have been dozens all across the country, as well as a few in other countries recently.
In early September, the QC Poultry saw its Montebello, Calif. processing plant go up in flames as well, adding to a rash of “accidental fires” targeting food facilities in recent months.
All of a sudden within the past year or so, facilities that produce, process or in some way handle the food we all eat have mysteriously caught on fire. Many of them are now a massive pile of rubble as the flames consumed their entire structures.
Here is a partial list of the “food fires” we’ve seen over this past year:
A meat processing plant in El Paso, Texas
A butter production plant in Caldwell, Idaho
A poultry processing plant in Ontario, Canada
A soybean processing and biodiesel plant in Claypool, Indiana
Numerous chicken farms in Missouri, Maryland, Delaware and Iowa
A Walmart distribution center in Indianapolis, Indiana
A Nestle plant in Jonesboro, Arkansas
Numerous egg production facilities in Nebraska, Iowa, South Dakota and Minnesota
A food processing facility in Maricopa County, Arizona
Numerous turkey farms in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Minnesota
https://dcdirtylaundry.com/suspicious-fertilizer-plant-fire-adds-to-fears-that-americas-food-supply-infrastructure-is-being-targeted/
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You can throw in MAJOR crop failures in California affecting leafy greens due to disease. I don’t mean a little problem I mean a huge problem! For example - wholesale prices in Atlanta: romaine $83, iceberg $81, green leaf $83 and red leaf $67. There is only 24 heads in each box and this is wholesale. Oh btw, they are going to completely run out soon. They move from Salinas to Yuma around the middle f November or so and California will run out before then…. I was at Food Depot Saturday and a package of 3 romaine hearts was $9.90! Tik Tok Tik Tok Tik Tok…. BOOM!!!
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Those who are reading this and wonder what you are going to do for the winter, try greens that take frost, and/or plant lettuce in a planter. Keep them in a cool bright room (window) Small heads do best inside, just pull them up add a little fertilizer and plant another in its place. I plant no more than 8 at a time, so this will depend on how much you like lettuce. Be sure and check the germination percentage on the packet....Hey peppers...you got this...You don't need Ca. Surveyor, thanks for the heads up!
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What kind of lettuce does best in an indoor planter?
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What kind of lettuce does best in an indoor planter?
I am going to find out this year as I have two grow bags. One of lettuce and one of spinach. Today I think I will plant a third of Romaine lettuce as it will take a light frost and most other lettuce is done with a frost. I got the grow bags as they have two handles and it is easier for the wife & I to move them. I think there will be a lot of moving them inside for the night and cold spells here in South Georgia.
My plans for a cabin in Region 2 has a Sun Room. A heated back porch enclosed with a wall of windows. The floor will be concrete insulated from earth and have PEX tubing for Winter heat. Hopefully that will get us by for the long cold winters up there. I should be able to start seeds in the Spring for myself and the neighbors. Boy I dream big!
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What kind of lettuce does best in an indoor planter?
I am going to find out this year as I have two grow bags. One of lettuce and one of spinach. Today I think I will plant a third of Romaine lettuce as it will take a light frost and most other lettuce is done with a frost. I got the grow bags as they have two handles and it is easier for the wife & I to move them. I think there will be a lot of moving them inside for the night and cold spells here in South Georgia.
My plans for a cabin in Region 2 has a Sun Room. A heated back porch enclosed with a wall of windows. The floor will be concrete insulated from earth and have PEX tubing for Winter heat. Hopefully that will get us by for the long cold winters up there. I should be able to start seeds in the Spring for myself and the neighbors. Boy I dream big!
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Benny, Little Gem is good. I bought some this year through Bakers, in Marshfield MO. Look for some that have a symbol that says it can be raised in a greenhouse.
Southern Exposure will give you that sign. They somewhat specialize in seeds that do well in the south.
Check out Johnny's I only use them in a pinch, seed is expensive. Also, I am holding a grudge against them since they cut off seeing seed to us small growers during Covid and only sold to commercial growers.
Bakers has free shipping. Once in a while you may get a seed mixed in that doesn't belong, but hey, it's food. Bakers also has some . They also have good greens. Sorry, was in a hurry, it is Bakers creek heirloom seed. They have it in stock. Another really good one that I have grown outdoors and in the floor of our greenhouse at the other place, in the dirt, as well as in the raised beds was Dragoon. I will try some in the house and see how it does. Neither of these are bitter. Use them when they are small. I am trying some Flashy Trout back, but just in planting stage.
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Tatsoi is a good substitute for lettuce and available at Bakers Creek. It is very high in nutrients, very resistant to bugs, fast growing, and sweet. They sometimes send a free packet of it with your order to get you hooked. See the reviews. I am cooking some for lunch. You can eat it raw.
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For the first time in the history of our nation. The U.S. will be importing more food than it is exporting next year. The breadbasket to the world will be importing food. Let that one sink in.
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The wife went to the grocery store this morning while I went to a Quik Clips near by for a hair cut. When I finally got to the grocery store, she already had a cart full. She found sliced mushrooms in a glass jar on sale for 1 dollar per. They were $3.99 marked down to a dollar each. She had 4 in the cart. I sent her back to that aisle to get some more at that price. We came home with nine. She said it would take us a year to use them up. The use before date was June 2025.
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R.W.S. I got the same deal about two weeks ago. Great product, great price. There were only six on the shelf. It was a close out sale, same date as yours '25. If they are loading up again, I will go back. We eat a lot of mushrooms. I often add the canned ones to dinners in a jar, once I open a quart to heat up.. We love them in turkey chili.
Meanwhile back on topic, our food will have to cost more if we have to import more than we export. I can't see prices going down when everything we buy to produce our food is going up.
Chicken feed is crazy high. Anything we use on or in our gardens is up. When I use my seed now I am much more careful about not having to thin it. If I plant too heavy, I thansplant if I can. Keeping the greenhouse warm in this extra cold weather is costing twice what it did last year, when the temps were more in line with the norms, or warmer. My brain is hurting, trying to get a grip on how to "frugal down". I need some buckets of hot wood ash!
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I am on the Georgia Cracker Radio net this morning, like most mornings. There are several hunters that check in. This morning the hunters were talking about deer processing places. It seems that a lot of them have signs out front. "Not taking any more deer FULL. One ham said where he usually takes his deer had 159 deer to be processed and had that sign out front. I am thinking that after next years hunting season is over that the deer population will be significantly reduced.
That should help my garden survive a little better. So what I should do is store up long term meat supplies and grow more vegetables & potatoes in my garden.
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that walmart pasta went up to 3.12$
32% moar so much for 8.2%
got my eye on this now
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Long-Grain-Enriched-Rice-320-oz/10315883
20lbs for 8.88$ free shipping on 4 of them saves me from paying joe biden gas prices
I hear putin took all the aluminum, so here's bulk aluminum foil
https://www.walmart.com/ip/GEN-Standard-Aluminum-Foil-Roll-12-x-1-000-ft-GEN7112/264950238
one year later rice is 10.97$
21% inflation in basic food
my one year CD paid 3% interest
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Yea and aluminum foil is up around 100% YOY….
Not to mention, last year I paid $.70 for a gallon of distilled water at Walmart and last week I paid $1.22! Get real, an inflation rate of 75% on freaking water!
I also checked the price I paid for AP Flour last year at Walmart compared to this year $1.67 vs $2.27 - over 30% inflation…
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A large role of heavy duty Reynolds Aluminum foil was 18.00 at Ingals yesterday. I put some back a long time ago, with consideration for easy meal clean up, should the grid go down. I am so glad that I did that. This was before the war in Ukraine. I did the same with paper plates and napkins, when I could find them on sale. They have also doubled in price since then.
Dollar store prices seem to be right up their with the other stores, if not more. I guess people weigh the cost of gas, to paying more right dow the road, for a few things. Some people just assume they are paying less, because it is The Dollar Store. Nothing is a dollar anymore. Their dollar bags of candy are 1.25 or better, and have less pieces.
Ox tail, was 10.48 lb. yesterday....I wanted to use them as a soup base, for the rain this week....What the heck! These are bones, with a ring of meat.
The shelves were not well stocked; beef was thin. It was Monday afternoon.
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@ Surveyor1 , You've been getting distilled water cheaper than I have by about 30%.
Decent weight large roll of foil I bought last year but I don't remember what I paid.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GQG5D6D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
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@ Surveyor1 , You've been getting distilled water cheaper than I have by about 30%.
Wow! I get mine at Walmart, when they actually have in stock which is one out of every three trips🤦♂️!