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Prepping => Medical/First Aid/Health => Topic started by: Gunner on April 15, 2021, 02:58:28 AM
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There is so much in the news, I dont really know what to think about getting my COVID shot. I dont want to be injected with mRNA... it just doesnt sound like a good idea. The J&J shot is now causing blood clots... as a heart patient ..... this is a mon-starter for me. I have been working like a crazy person through the entire pandemic.... It seems that the ARMY is immune to this virus.... and we are still going forward. I am wondering how many others are considering forgoing the vaccine, and letting nature take its course?
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The wife & I are refusers. There appears to be no benefit as it does not make you immune. I really think what it is designed to do is make you more suseptible to the next one they send down the pike. In other words a death shot!
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I got my 2nd shot a week ago today. First shot, sore arm. Second shot, 24 hours of feeling rough, low grade fever and all over aches. Saturday am I was fine. The side effects were just as the pharmacist foretold.
No, the vaccine doesn’t make you immune to Covid, what is does is decrease the potential for you to have a serious/life ending case of Covid. I didn’t understand what caused the seriousness of Covid until a doctor on TV explained that your lungs are filled with pus! There is no way to get all of that out of your lungs down to a molecular level. That is why patients are put on ventilators and still die. :(
The vaccine will prevent acquiring such a severe case because of the antibodies your body creates against the virus. Frankly I think we are going to be dealing with this da** virus for a long time.
It is just a matter of how much risk you want to take of not taking the vaccine. I would rather be at home with a mild case of the Covid virus than a full blown, in ICU on a ventilator case.
If we could ask the half million people that have died, ‘would you take the vaccine?’ What do you imagine they would say?
Just my humble opinion offered with love.
Ravenwood
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98% of my immediate and extended family are foregoing the shots. We have many reasons.
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Ravenwood, my nurse practitioner daughter-in-law has spoken at length about what is happening in some hospitals. The doctors are lamenting that they are being prevented from doing what will save their patients (give blood thinners) as the hospitals and insurance companies have "covid protocol." They can only follow that. So doctors are bringing in their own supply of aspirin and giving it to patients off the charts (every one taking care of patients knows however so there are no mistakes to be had). Since they started risking their licenses in that way, they are having less and less patients even make it to ICU much less being put on ventilators and hardly any dying. ... That was October.
They all had covid lung (the pus you mentioned) yet they recovered with no need of gene therapy to clear it.
Personally I believe there are much worse things than death. BUT I am in full support of everyone making a decision that they feel is best for them. I believe in fully informed consent and I'm not sure everyone is getting that here. Especially in this day and age when you can read medical reports coming out of other countries (which means med professionals here can read them, too) but then American authorities await for those very things to happen here before they do anything about it and say they had no idea such a thing could happen. I call malarchy and it makes me distrust the American system. Israel has the most stuff coming out right now if one is so inclined to start researching a bit more to make a decision.
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I'll pass for several reasons.
first, I don't believe the whu flu is anywhere near as bad as the tv says. I don't see 2.2 million bodies stacked in the street, I don't even see the 500k they want me to believe
we didn't have 500k more deaths than previous years. it's closer to half.
according to the cdc only 6% of covid deaths died from just covid. 94% died with/from something else. including terminal cancer, heart attacks even accidents and poisoning.
normal flu disappeared. where did it go? where those cases counted as covid?
avg age of covid death is in the 70's
so is avg life expectancy
it appears, for the most part, to be killing people who are older, already in nursing homes, poor health, etc.
even the cdc says it's not a risk to younger people and almost no risk to kids.
so because of those reasons, I'm more worried about crossing the street or walking down stairs than the coof
the shots are not even approve, have very little/rushed testing and no long term testing
these type of shots have never been used before, completely new and very little testing for a flu that poses little risk to me.
astra is 60% effective, J&J is in the 70's
so half of these things barely work. there are more and more reports of fully vaxxed people still getting sick
astra is being banned/suspended in more and more euro countries, JJ is suspended here.
if there were tested, why are they suspended?
if they were not tested, why are they being pushed?
if I were older, with other complications I might have a different view. but I'll drink orange juice, get a little sun shine and take my chances with my immune system
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Not that I don’t trust .gov but I don’t! There are many treatments now but the NIH will still not endorse many of these that have been proven effective. One of these is a well tested and proven drug Ivermectin. Even the WHO has shown that it lowers mortality by 81%!!! My mother who is 84 got the whu flu and the doctor put her on that 4 drug hydroxicloriquin cocktail. She did not have to go to the hospital and started showing drastic improvement with just a couple of days. She was congested for a few weeks but very manageable. When people have to go to the courts in order to be administered a life saving drug of their own choosing and their doctors choosing there appears to me to be something nefarious going on! Btw, no I will not be getting jabbed.
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-court-orders-ny-hospital-to-administer-ivermectin-to-covid-patient-who-began-breathing-on-his-own-after-one-dose
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I will be getting my second shot tomorrow morning.
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Some 5,800 Americans contracted COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated against the virus that causes it, federal officials said Thursday.
The Americans got the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19, despite getting two shots of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told The Epoch Times via email.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/least-5800-fully-vaccinated-americans-contracted-covid-19-74-died/
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Some 5,800 Americans contracted COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated against the virus that causes it, federal officials said Thursday.
The Americans got the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19, despite getting two shots of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told The Epoch Times via email.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/least-5800-fully-vaccinated-americans-contracted-covid-19-74-died/
Yep I feel safe! Thank you .gov and thank you big pharma! At least once we get the vaccine it’s all over and we can return to normal! Oh wait, there is new information from Bill Gates! NOW people that got the shots may need a 3rd shot... Does anyone else feel like they are lining up for a 50 yard field goal and your offensive line keeps moving and getting 5 yard penalties???
Well the good news is I called my mom tonight to tell her how proud I was of myself! I kinda “gushed” a little when I bragged to her that I had the exact same Medical degree and the exact same college diploma as Bill Gates! I’m confident that since she is my mom she is sooo proud of me!!!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-variants-third-shot-bill-gates/
Yep i
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I’m sorry, Btw I forgot to mention that this is the same Bill Gates that says the world is over populated... I don’t know but does it concern anyone that he is funding all of these studies, pushing for more vaccinations while for years has been saying that we need to decrease the population of the world???
Should I be concerned that one of the most outspoken person on depopulation is pushing these vaccines like a used car salesman??? Sometimes things just don’t add up and when someone that wants to depopulate the world is pushing a completely untested vaccine on millions and millions to prevent them from dieing and making them live longer I have to question his motives??? Does anyone else find this ironic or unsettling, knowing the source? Personally this pandemic response is scaring the hell out of me much more than the actual pandemic... God Be With Us All!
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I am so proud of this group of free thinkers. We got ours, Thor turned 80 on Monday and has kidney disease. We finally feel good about going out. We will not take a third one. If they can not get it done with two, enough is enough. We normally are pretty careful about what we put in our bodies....there is that wine thing...but I digress...
Sore arm, first shot, two days feeling flu like symptoms. We are still careful, but wear masks less. Hand washing and sunshine, major RX. I agree with Ravenwood.
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I got my second shot this morning and unfortunately I died 12 minutes later. LOL
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I got my second shot this morning and unfortunately I died 12 minutes later. LOL
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I got mine and it’s great. I woke up the next day fluent in Chinese and much more in touch with my inner personal feelings. By the way, I’m bringing plenty of coloring books to the campout and you know I’ll share.
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This is WAR --- Biological WAR!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/australias-sky-news-releases-documentary-really-happened-wuhan-interviews-president-trump-pompeo-ratcliffe-video/
Now you know why I refuse to take the vaccine. I refuse to participate in their Biological WAR !
I also believe the second virus (Variant) comes from the vaccine and can be transmitted to the un-vaccinated!
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I am glad we got it and will probably get the booster after we watch it awhile. We just lost another non-tax friend last week. Younger people are not seeing the deaths of their peers, along with the hospitalizations, and close calls. Some remain at home, and just get sick as dogs.
I felt a little icky after my second shot. It lasted a day. We know of no one that has had ill effects from it. I am referring to people we actually know and we know a lot of people...
Needed to add that we got the first one in January and the second three weeks later, in February.
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Still feeling fine about getting mine. Got the J&J in April. No problems.
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Unpublished side effects of the vaccine.
That's weird, because in October of 2020 — two months earlier — an internal FDA document delineated the known ones:
Guillain-barré syndrome
acute disseminated encephalomyelitis
Transverse myelitis
Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/meningoencephalitis/meningitis/encepholapathy
convulsions/seizures
Stroke
Narcolepsy and cataplexy
Anaphylaxis
Acute myocardial infarction
Myocarditis/pericarditis
Autoimmune disease
Deaths
Pregnancy and birth outcomes
Other acute demyelinating diseases
Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions
Thrombocytopenia
Disseminated intravascular coagulation
Veinous thromboembolism
Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain
Multi Inflammatory Syndrome in Children
Vaccine enhanced disease
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/09/doctor_claims_covid_treatment_meant_to_kill_patients.html
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Among my friends and family and this is just an observation, that those who received it earlier in the year generally had fewer serious issues than those who got it late spring and all through the summer. Stroke, heart attack and other serious heart issues.
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Don’t forget about severe nausea and vomiting, bloody/tarry stools, angioedema, cerebral hemorrhage (stroke), hemolytic anemia, decreased platelet clotting, neutropenia, liver damage and seizures!
Oh wait.......those are potential side effects of aspirin.
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The Chief and I just got our second shot today. We did the Pfizer.
A very good friend in my office - one of my mortgage originators, about my age and diabetic got Covid about 3 weeks ago, he spent the last 2 weeks in the hospital with Covid Pneumonia and almost died a couple of times. I really think prayer is all that saved him. And like Ben mentioned the Diabetes just made it all worse. Steroids caused his blood sugar to spike dangerously high. He just came home but is still on oxygen, they say he may remain on oxygen indefinitely due to the damage to his lungs.
Another friend who is a contractor - worked out daily and was very health conscious just passed away Sunday from Covid Pneumonia after 2 weeks in hospital. There is no way to discern who will get deathly sick and who will just have flu like symptoms.
We would probably still be on the fence about the vaccine except that the Chief was mandated to get it.
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The linked article confirms what I have been saying. "The vaccine gives you the second version of the Covid". Worse is that once you get it you can transmit it to the unvaccinated.
Not Making Headlines: Sen. Ron Johnson Just Exposed on Senate Floor that the COVID Vaccines Do Not Appear to Work as Advertised (VIDEO)
Please read the article and watch the video before commenting This time please.
Senator Johnson makes three very important points from his chart.
1.) The total coronavirus cases and deaths had dropped significantly before the vaccine was introduced.
2.) The rate of vaccination took off early in 2021 and today stands around 60%.
3.) Despite 60% of the population being vaccinated the cases and deaths surged again this summer.
It appears from the chart that the vaccines are not working as advertised.
Oh it is working as designed (designed to kill you) just not as advertised.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/not-making-headlines-sen-ron-johnson-just-exposed-senate-floor-covid-vaccines-not-appear-work-advertised-never-video/
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The problem is that people test positive and they just send them home with a steroid and Z-Pack. They are not prescribing the better therapeutics. Another thing is that everyone needs to be on D3, Zinc, and B-Complex.
What the CDC isn't saying is that the current vax is not very effective against the Delta variant, especially those that were vaxed 6 months ago because it's lost it's effectiveness. Boosters? I know several vaxed people that got sick. Also, a nurse told me yesterday that vaxed people in the hospital that had vaxed on their charts, that it's no longer on their charts, it was removed! They are artificially lowering the numbers. The estimate is that at least 30% of hospitalizations from COVID are vaxed people, they say < 10%. It's a lie. They are deliberately falsifying the numbers so people don't see that the vax is failing. They are demonizing the un-vaxed, but who are they? The majority of these people are Blacks and Hispanics. They are not the typical Trump voter as CNN would have you believe. It's a political ploy to make Democrats hate Republicans.
We are plunging head long into totalitarianism. No vax card, no work, no eating out, no events, no air or bus travel, etc. It's almost the "mark of the beast" from Revelation 13:17. The mark is typically interpreted to represent ownership by the beast and right hand is power/authority or an oath given to, but it could be a bar code, implant, or Vax ID card. But I digress. I'm surprised more people don't buy fakes vs. quitting their jobs, maybe they do? There seems to be a lot of PDFs floating around on the internet. It's just a 3x4 printed card. There are no security features on it. From what I hear, most employers just want is a picture of the front of the card. There is the GRITS vaccine system here in GA, but you can opt out of that. That may work for now, but the way we are going with boosters that may become yearly, there will be a national COVID registry with digital IDs. It's the big push right now that makes me wonder what they are really up to?
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I agree Progeek! I don’t know why the doctors are so resistant to the alternative therapies that have proven success many many times. Insofar as vaccinated vs. unvaccinated hospital admissions. I will concretely stand behind the assertion that only 10% (+-) of hospital admissions have been vaccinated. I’ve never seen a vaccination status on a patient changed. If the J&J vaccine had not been available, you’d see me spending big bucks on a fake vaccine card to keep my job.
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Why would Whales be that much different than the US?? I think not that much.
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Breakthrough Cases Surge: Vaccinated Individuals Accounted for 87% of Covid Hospitalizations Over the Past Week in Wales UK; 99% of All New Cases Were Under 60 Years Old
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/ready-breakthrough-cases-surge-vaccinated-individuals-accounted-87-covid-hospitalizations-past-week-wales-uk-99-new-cases-60-years-old/
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the same data is coming out of OZ
but other countries can have different definitions of unvaxxed
I saw an update from new south whales oz she said 7 died that day, one was unvaxxed
then she said 3 had 2 shots, 3 had 1 shot
in the US they would say it's mostly unvaxxed dying
I understand that here you need both shots and it must be 14 days past your second shot to be "fully vaxxed" ?
victoria oz said 78% in the hospital had 2, 17% had 1. that only leaves 5% completely unvaxxed
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"... you’d see me spending big bucks on a fake vaccine card to keep my job."
They have not imposed a mandate at my company. At least not yet.
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No shot for me. I posted on the camp out thread that we won't be coming since hubby came home from the hospital on oxygen. We all had Covid for sick for 3 or 4 days but general crappy feeling for over a week. We didn't take the shot. Hubby had both shots, not even 3 months ago, he went to hospital with Covid pneumonia. He spent a week and came home on oxygen. They didn't give him much of a choice when it came to treatment, unlike other countries. The 3 of us took NAC but now it looks like the the FDA is going to take that away after 40 years. It's in stage 2 testing for covid now so of course they don't want us to have it.
Moderna is being linked to tinnitus. One doctor who got tinnitus 1 hour after taking the shot says he can't be sure of the cause. They are also saying some with tinnitus are going deaf.
There is some good news if you catch it.
https://youtu.be/9bamaEMftg4
And from Australia with 77% vaxed.
https://youtu.be/TFtlK6fuVno
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For what it is worth, TLWagg has been a friend for well over 10 years and if she shares it on the forum my only advice to you is to treat it as The Gospel….
Thanks for sharing! We hope hubby is getting better!
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I am hearing similar statistics from nurses who are anti-vax, and now protesting the mandate. It is starting to sound like this is far from a virus killing vaccine miracle. I am also hearing that it should start to go away on its own next year....who knows. Thor and I are not getting in a rush to get the booster. We did get our pneumonia shot, just one. Thanks to everyone that shares their experiences and information on this very confusing issue.
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Thanks Surveyor1 he's feeling better already. I posted this last year but I'll repost it now. We've been watching Dr. John and Chris since last January both have been very informative. Chris posted what he would take if he got covid and that's what most of us did.
https://youtu.be/lIkXmAI6A0o
At 17:58 he explains what he takes and why.
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Thanks to Tiwagg for posting the peak prosperity video. Just want to say it's on YouTube and anyone following YouTube must know of their censorship and how such videos are often blocked by them. Basically, YouTube often doesn't want you to know of or have certain information which is why I am an advocate of Odysee.com which is another platform for videos more aligned with free speach. So will attach a link to odyssey.com for the same link. https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/boosting-your-immune-system-in-defense:8
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Thanks Rockhopper I hadn't seen Chris on Odysee yet.
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Look what's happening in Washington.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Es73LafGCP8?feature=share
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I’m really starting to wonder just how correct RWS has been with his theories. Like I’ve said before, show me the statistics, numbers don’t lie, people do! Well I guess we will find out at some point huh?
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-data-is-in-and-we-are-now-worse-off-than-before-the-experimental-shots
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Getting a “booster” shot will only speed up the death process
It is not just that the jabs do not provide the claimed amount of protection against the Fauci Flu. The fact of the matter is that they provide no protection at all in the long term and actually destroy a person’s immune system.
“But the figures above also show that the vaccines do NOT merely lose efficiency over time down to zero efficiency, they progressively damage the immune system until a negative efficiency is realised. They presently leave anybody over 30 in a worse position than they were before vaccination.”
People who take the Biden “Booster” shots will only accelerate this process by adding even more immune-destroying chemicals to their bodies. The downward spiral will move even faster, in other words, the more shots a person gets.
https://www.dcclothesline.com/2021/10/17/are-covid-vaccines-giving-people-aids-immune-system-functions-are-dropping-around-5-each-week-in-those-who-were-vaccinated/
I feel really bad this morning. SAD!
Now do you understand why our government is bringing in hundreds of thousands of foreigners and not giving them the shot?? They are to replace the hundreds of thousands (Millions) that are killed from the Covid vaccinations!
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I’m still not sold on that article. When I click internal links inside the article to see the data, it takes me to erectiile dysfunction ads, not vaccine research. We are still haven’t taken the vaccines, though we did have antibody infusions. I think it would be more like the Anthrax vaccine that has almost 20 side effects thirty years later. I would think we would already see thousands dying as we are well within The 12 week period stated in the article and we havent seen that yet. I guess once Christmas and then January rolls around, we shall see. Put me on the doubter about it, however.
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I’m still not sold on that article. When I click internal links inside the article to see the data, it takes me to erectiile dysfunction ads, not vaccine research. We are still haven’t taken the vaccines, though we did have antibody infusions. I think it would be more like the Anthrax vaccine that has almost 20 side effects thirty years later. I would think we would already see thousands dying as we are well within The 12 week period stated in the article and we havent seen that yet. I guess once Christmas and then January rolls around, we shall see. Put me on the doubter about it, however.
Every week here we have several that have died under circumstances the lead me to believe the vaccine killed them. I felt strongly enough about this article that I sent a link to my two sons that each have taken the vaccine. Basically I told them "Goodbye"!
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since nearly everyone in UK is vxxxd, now they switched to SUPER FLU
https://www.scotsman.com/health/super-cold-covid-or-flu-super-cold-symptoms-and-difference-of-uks-worst-cold-ever-to-covid-explained-3418294
where can I get my super flu shot? I want 3
According to the NHS, the most common cold symptoms appear gradually and include:
- a blocked or runny nose
- a sore throat
- headaches
- muscle aches
- coughs
- sneezing
- a raised temperature
- pressure in your ears and face
- loss of taste and smell
weird, that list looks strangely familiar
this is weird too
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/world/uk-lab-false-negative-tests.html
so everyone in the UK gets their coof shots, the lab only hands out negative coof results and suddenly there's a super flu with all of the coof symptoms but it's not coof
got it
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I love my doc, she's really up on herbal and supplement stuff but during today's visit she really pushed on the vaccine, hard. They do the antibody injection if I get it but she reminded me that the vaccine makes my body make it's own antibodies so I DON'T get it ( a lie) and I'm VERY high risk. I wasn't going to argue or tell her it wasn't really a vaccine but I did tell her that I have 2 personal friends who developed heart issues within 3 days of getting vaxxed. I'm just not ready for it. My immune system has always been pretty good and I've been taking extra D3, C, and zinc since this started. I have 3 friends who have cholesterol and BP issues along with being smokers, they got it and recovered just fine with supplements. It wasn't fun but neither is a bad case of flu.
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Colin Powell Dies at 84 from COVID Complications — He Was Fully Vaccinated
Gen. Colin Powell, the influential former secretary of state and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who played a pivotal policy role during the administration of then-President George W. Bush, died Monday at 84 from complications related to COVID-19, his family announced.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/colin-powell-dies-84-covid-complications-fully-vaccinated/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/colin-powells-facebook-page-announcement-sums-everything-wrong-political-ruling-class-today/
Fox News Reporter Panics, Deletes Tweet Suggesting Colin Powell’s Death ‘Raises New Concerns’ About Covid Vaccine Efficacy
A reporter for MNNBC attacked John Roberts and said Colin Powell’s death underscores how effective the vaccines are.
And I agree. Very effective at shortening one's life span.
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I’m still not sold on that article. When I click internal links inside the article to see the data, it takes me to erectiile dysfunction ads, not vaccine research. We are still haven’t taken the vaccines, though we did have antibody infusions. I think it would be more like the Anthrax vaccine that has almost 20 side effects thirty years later. I would think we would already see thousands dying as we are well within The 12 week period stated in the article and we havent seen that yet. I guess once Christmas and then January rolls around, we shall see. Put me on the doubter about it, however.
Every week here we have several that have died under circumstances the lead me to believe the vaccine killed them. I felt strongly enough about this article that I sent a link to my two sons that each have taken the vaccine. Basically I told them "Goodbye"!
Thanks for the info. It isn’t I don’t outright believe it. I just need more empirical evidence. Any idea how the monoclonal antibody infusion compares with the vaccines?
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I will not be getting the Shot, i have had covid and recovered fine. I am low risk, my wife is higher risk but will also not be getting the shot. She had covid and recovered. I respect everyones right to do as you choose. I am willing to lose a well paying job over this, that is my choice. I am ok with being barred from commerce that also is a businesses choice. Feels kinda crazy to even type this but i am waiting for my company to decide, i am paying off loose ends like a mad man, selling excess equipment and firearms. I am working on leases in the area to ramp up animal production next year and possibly hang my hat up running a machine shop and go full time farm / mechanic. Welding is bringing good side income lately. I guess will see who pulls the trigger first. What ever way you decide i still love you just be prepared to pay for your convictions because that time of choice appears to be narrowing.
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I will not be getting the Shot, i have had covid and recovered fine. I am low risk, my wife is higher risk but will also not be getting the shot. She had covid and recovered. I respect everyones right to do as you choose. I am willing to lose a well paying job over this, that is my choice. I am ok with being barred from commerce that also is a businesses choice. Feels kinda crazy to even type this but i am waiting for my company to decide, i am paying off loose ends like a mad man, selling excess equipment and firearms. I am working on leases in the area to ramp up animal production next year and possibly hang my hat up running a machine shop and go full time farm / mechanic. Welding is bringing good side income lately. I guess will see who pulls the trigger first. What ever way you decide i still love you just be prepared to pay for your convictions because that time of choice appears to be narrowing.
When I got married 53 years ago I told my wife that when I became a millionaire that I would quit my job and go to Farming until it was all gone!
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“County Waterford has the highest adult vaccination rates in Ireland at 99%+,” tweeted someone familiar with the new data. “Followed by County Carlow in second place at 98%+.”
“County Waterford also has the highest Covid incidence rates in Ireland, followed by County Carlow in second place,” this same person added. “What is going on?”
This sounds a whole lot like the current situation in Vermont. Despite nearly 90 percent of the state now being “fully vaccinated,” Chinese Virus hospitalizations are soaring.
It seems like wherever the most people are getting jabbed for the Wuhan Flu, there you will find the most cases of illness and death. And wherever people are just saying no, there you will find the healthiest people who have long since moved on with their lives.
https://dcdirtylaundry.com/ireland-town-thats-99-7-fully-vaccinated-seeing-massive-covid-outbreak/
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I will not be getting the Shot, i have had covid and recovered fine. I am low risk, my wife is higher risk but will also not be getting the shot. She had covid and recovered. I respect everyones right to do as you choose. I am willing to lose a well paying job over this, that is my choice. I am ok with being barred from commerce that also is a businesses choice. Feels kinda crazy to even type this but i am waiting for my company to decide, i am paying off loose ends like a mad man, selling excess equipment and firearms. I am working on leases in the area to ramp up animal production next year and possibly hang my hat up running a machine shop and go full time farm / mechanic. Welding is bringing good side income lately. I guess will see who pulls the trigger first. What ever way you decide i still love you just be prepared to pay for your convictions because that time of choice appears to be narrowing.
Amerika😡
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I just ran into this and thought I'd share.
https://rumble.com/embed/vl39fn/?pub=4pycp (https://rumble.com/embed/vl39fn/?pub=4pycp)
I guess hard work pays off.
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the swiss did the same thing with the same results
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At the risk of encouraging evil little grins, I have to share my news....Yesterday, Thor and I got the Booster in one arm and flu in the other. Our Dr. recommended that we get them together, so the don't fight each other...He may be nuts.
That was yesterday afternoon, and I had flu like symptoms for over 24 hours. They have been mild, but I am still in bed on this beautiful day, when I wanted to plant onions.
I told Thor that I am done with shots and will just use extreme caution in the future to help keep him safe. I was pro-vac, but I am not taking this dang thing every few months!
Wait, what's that sound? could it be little whispers of "I told you so?"...
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Evil little grin applied.
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.He may be nuts.
Thor or the Doctor🤔😳😜???
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Well :-\ :-\ :-\ Seriously, the Dr.!
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Just a heads up was at a friends business this am . he called one of his feed wholesalers to order a ton of dog food. While on the phone he asked about over med pore on . he was advised that that had a FDA recal! on it and could not sell it but had to turn it in.
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Just a heads up was at a friends business this am . he called one of his feed wholesalers to order a ton of dog food. While on the phone he asked about over med pore on . he was advised that that had a FDA recal! on it and could not sell it but had to turn it in.
“Over med pore on”. ???
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i ver mec tin ?
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Just went on TSC and put the pour-on in my cart. It was going to fly, but showed that I needed to pick it up in Douglasville. I don't live in Douglasville. It was also 54 dollars. When we worked cattle back in the day and ran steers through squeeze shoots, it was like 19.95, if memory serves (which it tends not to, these days).
They also had every tube paste for horses. Those prices have not gone up that much since we used it, say ten years ago, but it is up, of course.
Anyway, if anyone wants it for any reason, it is out there. I did not see an option to ship, but perhaps it is an available option in other areas.
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Now this is interesting.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/californias_invisible_governor.html
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Now this is interesting.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/californias_invisible_governor.html
Will be interesting to see if he “reappears”…
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Now this is interesting.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/californias_invisible_governor.html
Will be interesting to see if he “reappears”…
May be like Gina. She still has not shown up in over a year now!!!
https://seprepnet.com/forum/index.php/topic,4579.msg28286.html#msg28286
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Well you'll never have to roll up your sleeve again. Follow the link to the USC site. Scientists Are Attempting to Grow Covid Vaccine-Filled Spinach, Lettuce, Edible Plants To Replace Covid Injections https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/scientists-growing-covid-vaccine-filled-spinach-lettuce-edible-plants-replace-covid-injections/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/scientists-growing-covid-vaccine-filled-spinach-lettuce-edible-plants-replace-covid-injections/) If this doesn't creep you out I don't know what will.
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If it prevents Covid, then our government will outlaw it!!
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His language is rough but he has good topics.
https://rumble.com/embed/vmka1q/?pub=4pycp
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Salt Must Flow
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Our neighbors across the road were anti-vac. I say "were", since he died a few weeks ago. She is alive, but will never be the same and is going to have to go into assisted living. Other than Covid, they were healthy for their age. She may have been low of Vitamin D, as she rarely left the house. He worked in the yard. We just lost two conservative voters. I didn't get a chance to really know them. Last I saw of her, the kids were helping her up the stairs to get some of her things. She waved at me with her good arm, and smiled. For some reason, the disease affected her arm. She was on a ventilator for three weeks, according to our other neighbor.
So, it is not over....Keep your guards up over the holidays, in whatever way works, for you and yours
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And I will give a counter-version of that story that Abigayle just gave. Our next door neighbors were awesome, active, fit mid to late 70 year olds who were pro vaccine and made sure we knew it every chance they saw us outside. After getting their covid vaccines, he got covid and pneumonia and was in ICU for almost three weeks. He hadn’t been sick for four years prior to that. And he will never be the same because she has been in and out of the hospital at least six times since taking that damn vaccine. Prior to the vaccine, she hadnt been sick for several years. Now there two adult daughters spend alternating weeks living at the house, helping their once healthy parents survive because after they took the vaccine, both their parents health fell off the cliff rapidly.
My own in-laws, both in the their 70s took it. We drove them from New Orleans to Atlanta this week because it is likely the last holiday season they will be with us. In January of this year, I was hunting and fishing with my father-in-law. He could walk 7-8 miles through the woods easy. My mother-in-law was an active social butterfly, having some kind of activity planned every day so she wouldn’t grow bored in retirement. They both took that damn vaccine series. A week after, my mother-in-law ended up in the hospital with blood clots. Three weeks later, my father-in-law had a stroke. And both of their health have rapidly declined from active, healthy older adults to shells of their former selves. Notice how I said we drove them from New Orleans to Atlanta? That’s because they went from being able to drive here in March to not being able to drive at all in November.
Take it for what you will. Maybe it’s just coincidence, same with my neighbors above. But, when I can’t do my own research easily about vaccines and their side effects because there is a massive effort to hide any info that isn’t 100% positive, me and my family won’t be taking it. If the vaccines do more good than harm, why the hell hide the info and do everything in your power to prevent people from looking into that research? Open up all info and stop with all the lies and we would consider it.
On a side note, my wife, daughter, and I all had covid in September. Our daughter recovered in 48 hours. My wife and I (both in our 50s) recovered in 4-5 days. Why isn’t natural immunity considered and now I’m fighting with my job because they only accept the vaccine and nothing else? No consideration about natural immunity at all.
Here’s some final food for thought. I, and most people here, will be long dead by the time all info is released if the FDA gets it’s way. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/
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That’s horrible and I’m so sorry your family is going through that. Both of my elderly parents got the vaccine. Dad walks two miles every day. Mom still plays organ at two churches every Sunday and is somewhat of a social butterfly. Both had full vaccinations plus boosters with no ill effects. My wife and I both got the J&J vaccine and neither of us have had any problems. I know of one other elderly couple from church, both in their 80’s and still very active, had full Moderna series without any ill effects. I think responses are very individualized. I’m am not pro-vaccine. Neither am I anti-vaccer. Everyone has to make to make the judgement what’s best for them. There are things you can do to mitigate the immediate possibility of vaccine issues. Long term.....who knows. But I’ve seen too many young people, otherwise healthy, die from Covid. There was a period of time that I was coding one or two people per shift. 99% of those that died in my hospital were unvaccinated. I’m just a firm believer that people should make their own decisions based on their individual situations and research. I did my research and eventually decided to get the J&J.
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It is a very personal choice. We all must make decisions regarding health, life style, etc. then live with those decisions.
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I went to the Dr. office yesterday for my annual physical. During the questioning period, the PA pulls out a piece of paper and starts to ask if I have been vaccinated. I did not even let him finish. I asked him how many STDs did he have now and had in the past. He said none. I told him I still was not going to answer his question that I refused to confirm or deny. I told him I did not want to get on a list. He held up the piece of paper and said that you are already on a list.
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I expect we are all on a list somewhere...regardless of vac status
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I expect we are all on a list somewhere...regardless of vac status
You are right about that! Makes you just want to withdraw from society, move to the mountains and dissapear!
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Wow! Abigayle really sounds like she's behind the information curve. CoastieMike is right in that information about the vaccine is being suppressed; furthermore info about the virus and it's origins, and even effective treatments are being suppressed. Oh yeah, well who's suppressing this info? Well, Matrix News for one. You see there's really only a few owners who collectively own all the news outlets in the country. If these owners don't want you to know about something then they can direct their news outlets on what to leave out such as anything positive about Trump and manipulate info they do report on. We saw their media organisations do this against Trump such as when he instituted tariffs at China to counter their tariffs at US made products. Trump saw that a Cadillac SUV, for instance, only costing $80k in the US might cost $180k in China because of tariffs (or taxes) while cars or other items entering the US were not taxed. The positive things Trump did to strengthen America were never reported by Matrix News in order to keep Americans in their information matrix. Orange man bad! Is the only message Matrix News wanted. So likewise it seems with the virus, vaccine, and treatments.
Big tech has seemingly been in collusion along these same lines which is blatantly obvious as even congressmen such as Rand Paul have their videos of themselves speaking before congress get taken down by YouTube. I specifically mention Senator Rand Paul speaking before congress because nothing is more important than allowing elected US representatives to air their opinions and in many cases facts. Basically as long as you agree with their status quo then you have free speech.
This brings us to Fauci funding gain of function research (that's making the virus more transmissible to people) and denying before congress that he did which the NIH belatedly admitted in October so overwhelming this revelation that Matrix News had to report on it though not widely disseminated to the public judging by those I talk to. Note one Matrix News source MSN:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nih-admits-fauci-lied-about-funding-wuhan-gain-of-function-experiments/ar-AAPLZIe
So we have been lied to from day 1, but I think the only reason NIH admitted the above was in response to a freedom of information act request brought forth through an organisation mentioned by Dr Chris Martenson in the video below and this is how they created the virus.
https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/odds-increase-that-sars-cov-2-was-lab:f
Note this video is from Peak Prosperity often censored on YouTube as Dr Martenson mentions so I recommend looking for him, or any others, on Odysee.com versus YouTube as you are likely to get uncensored info on Odysee.com
Also, try and use Duckduckgo.com instead of google as a search engine since the former is less censored and I get different (better) results using it.
How about checking into the rapid increase of soccer (football) players collapsing on the field within the past couple of months. These men are peak athletes yet are collapsing. People are starting to ask why and beginning to suspect something dire is up.
Finally it has been revealed that human aborted fatal cells have been used in the development and testing of the vaccine but reportedly it's been said that it's not wanted that this information be released or widely known.
Many now are believing that if we were lied to by such an extent
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Throw me in with the “jab worrying crowd” as well. I too have been following the story about the athletes suddenly collapsing and/or dropping dead while competing. The official stats are that these episodes are up 5X the norm. I quit believing in coincidences many years ago and something is definitely wrong when young heathy 20-30 year olds are falling out at an abnormally high rate suddenly! (Over 80 incidents of this happening this year alone)…
Like I’ve said before, it’s an individual’s choice one way or the other. If you feel like you are at risk and you think the benefits of the vaccine are worth the risk, your call. If you feel the opposite and choose to try other options to mitigate the danger, that too is your call! That being said, if you are vaxxed and running around complaining about the unvaxed, IMHO you are an uneducated moron! If the vax works then the unvaxed are not your problem so STFU! I have NEVER begrudged anyone for getting the vax and I expect the same courtesy in return!
On this beautiful Thanksgiving Day we need to remember to thank God for all of the blessings that we have received! I will publicly thank him right now for one of those Blessings! “Thank You God for not making me a liberal!!! Amen”…
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getting ahead of something?
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-131454900770
Ads raising awareness about strokes in kids are not related to vaccines
By BEATRICE DUPUYNovember 1, 2021
in other news:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/health/covid-19-children-cases-up-again/index.html
Covid-19 cases in children are up 32% from two weeks ago, pediatricians' group says
By Jen Christensen, CNN
hummm, 2 weeks you say?
2 weeks? what changed in the last 2 weeks?
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1102-PediatricCOVID-19Vaccine.html
CDC Recommends Pediatric COVID-19 Vaccine for Children 5 to 11 Years
Media Statement
For Immediate Release: Tuesday, November 2, 2021
CDC now expands vaccine recommendations to about 28 million children in the United States in this age group and allows providers to begin vaccinating them as soon as possible.
and finally
https://www.newsweek.com/covid-vax-rates-africa-are-low-region-avoids-worst-leaving-scientists-baffled-1651375
COVID Vax Rates in Africa Are Low But Region Avoids Worst, Leaving Scientists Baffled
By Lora Korpar On 11/19/21 at 2:37 PM EST
weird
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I do believe all this Covid hype has been a diversion all along. There’s currently a bird flu going around that can only be picked up by doing a respiratory panel. I’ve seen it and I don’t want it. This one actually worries me. I wonder just how many people diagnosed with Covid had this as a “secondary” infection. The strange thing is, nobody is talking about this on any level. The info is there plain as day. Nobody is raising a single red flag. We’ve all been fooled y’all.
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Benny, what are the symptoms? This doesn't sound good.
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I expect the symptoms will be just close enough COVID and seasonal flu to confuse the F out of everyone. I've had something for a week tomorrow. Off and on very light fever, runny nose, tons of congestion, coughing and extreme fatigue. I cancelled Thanksgiving with the fam just in case, I'm keeping me and animals fed, otherwise I'm sleeping - or playing on the 'puter, lol.
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And just to remind everyone to keep that tin foil close. Remember the big World Conference (Bill G loves these things) two years ago in October? It was on a pandemic. Two months later we had one, the conspiracy theorists went nuts - I know none of US would give that any credence, LOL.
This year? It was on global grid down.
LOL, enjoy your day!
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Benny, what are the symptoms? This doesn't sound good.
Similar to flu and Covid but it last and last last. Weakens the body and immune system.
VERY VERY VERY contagious.
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new covid strain discovered in africa
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/futures-global-stocks-tumble-amid-sudden-fears-over-dramatically-new-covid-strain
"the world is suddenly freaking out, and algos are hitting bids, amid fears that a new coronavirus strain detected in South Africa, known as B.1.1529, reportedly carries an "extremely high number" of mutations and is “clearly very different” from previous incarnations, which may drive further waves of disease by evading the body’s defenses"
well, that will teach Africans to get all jabbed up, oh wait
"Botswana’s health ministry confirmed in a statement that four cases of the new variant were detected in people who were all fully vaccinated. All four were tested before their planned travel"
tested for travel? not tested for symptoms?
so they never knew they were sick until the test ?
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So the mutations are now multiplying faster than bacteria in warm milk? Based upon the fact that since day one this has not acted like ANY previous infectious disease I’m going to go out on a limb…. Humanity is at a crossroad, mRNA is going to be proven to be a facilitator, the people responsible for this global genocide and economic destruction will never be held to account. My question now is who is going to be the “One” to bring the world together and win versus this virus??? I’m guessing it’s going to be the group that already has the anecdote? That group will step up and save what’s left of the world and set it up and govern it to their liking. It’s going to be interesting to see who the culprits are when Fred, Shaggy, Daphne, Velma and Scooby finally get the opportunity to pull of the masks!!!
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/scared-nu-world-heres-what-we-know-about-new-covid-strain
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My 1st thought about the mRNA was the same as yours - it's a facilitator. And yet, wasn't Africa one of the least vaxxed places?
But how does this math make sense?
"As of Thursday there were almost 100 cases detected in South Africa, where it’s become the dominant strain among new infections. Early PCR test results showed that 90% of 1,100 new cases reported Wednesday in the South African province that includes Johannesburg were caused by the new variant, according to de Oliveira"
Did they have 1100 cases on Wednesday and then only 100 on Thursday? That doesn't indicate a high rate of contagion.
Sounds like they are all panicking. Not saying they shouldn't but once again, they are spewing confusion in the early stages.
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The problem is PCR That test method gives you what ever result you want. That is why people that did not know they were sick were diagnosed with a virus. Like getting tested to travel and find out you are sick. Give me a break, It's phony.....
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The wonders of modern medicine?
It seems like only yesterday we were reporting on the new COVID variant coming out of Africa.
SHOCKING: BIG PHARMA Received Emergency Use Approval a Couple of Weeks Ago for COVID Variant Discovered a Couple Days Ago?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/
Now! Just what is it you do not understand about Biological Warfare?
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It was actually identified Nov 9 and it's only become media worthy because of how fast it is spreading. A bit of Google will give more info on that. There's already reports yesterday afternoon from one non-hysterical physician (from S. Africa, IIRC) that the cases so far seem pretty mild but it's still early.
They knew when they discovered all the mutated spike proteins that they were going to have issues with the current vaccines. Botswana's official medical teams say their 1st 4 cases were all fully vaxxed.
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Have you figured out what all this Vaccine mess is all about YET!
Sweden: Get Your Covid Vaccine Passport in a Chip in Your Hand (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/sweden-get-covid-vaccine-passport-chip-hand-video/
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I’ve said all along that these Covid PCR test is a DNA harvesting platform! Well whoda thunk it🤦♂️…
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/la-county-sheriff-boots-china-linked-covid-testing-firm-after-fbi-warns-over-dna
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Best friend of my friend and neighbor at our old place just died of Covid. She was 53 and a diabetic. Her physician recommended she not get the vac, as he was unsure as to how it would react with the diabetes. I wonder if he is continuing with that train or thought or if he is not suggesting, maybe, the vac. I am not judging just wondering how physicians, in general are reacting and advising.
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Best friend of my friend and neighbor at our old place just died of Covid. She was 53 and a diabetic. Her physician recommended she not get the vac, as he was unsure as to how it would react with the diabetes. I wonder if he is continuing with that train or thought or if he is not suggesting, maybe, the vac. I am not judging just wondering how physicians, in general are reacting and advising.
At one point the vaccine might have been helpful for “at risk” demographics. As they have continued giving a “leaky” vaccine that now obviously does not work and is NOW making matters worse one has to wonder what to believe. I have respected people’s decisions to get the vaccine and that respect will never waiver! Each individual has to make that decision for themselves! Personally I will get the vaccine when they strap me down and shove it up my a$$ with a red hot poker! But then again, that’s just me…. The wife and I are following different protocols and will continue to do so. Neither of us will ever accept a vent and hopefully our vitamin and supplement regimen is adequate! According to the numbers, if you are not vitamin D deficient you have an excellent chance of it being basically a non-issue! Time will tell as the “leaky” vaccine keeps modifying the variants! (Kinda how we created penicillin resistant diseases by not finishing our prescriptions 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️…
The CDC, FDA and NIH should simply be prosecuted for not publishing information that HAS BEEN PROVEN TO SAVE LIVES!!!😡😡😡. I’ve been screaming this info from the mountain tops to anyone that will listen but every single person that I talk to that had Covid too NO supplemental vitamin D 😡😡😡🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️…
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-studies-show-an-aggressive-vitamin-d-campaign-could-have-prevented-nearly-all-covid-deaths
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We posted the vitamin D stuff last year. It's good to see the doctors are catching up.
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Time will tell as the “leaky” vaccine keeps modifying the variants!
I have to come out on this and so no. Viruses mutate all the time. That's what they do. It's not caused by the vaxed or unvaxed.
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Time will tell as the “leaky” vaccine keeps modifying the variants!
I have to come out on this and so no. Viruses mutate all the time. That's what they do. It's not caused by the vaxed or unvaxed.
I get what you’re say PG, I really do! Most “naturally occurring” viruses generally mutate to become more transmittable but less deadly as it does not want to “kill” the host only feed off of it. That being said my concern on the “leaky”vaccine is the type of mutations that could be possible instead of a natural progression. We all know (or should know) that by not finishing our prescribed antibiotics completely that we can create “super strains” that can become antibiotic resistant to the drug, penicillin is a great example! That’s why as a prepper I have multiple broad sprectum antibiotics prepped. If I get an infection and take a series of amoxicillin and the infection comes back then I will not take amoxicillin again but something else like tetracycline at a higher dose a little longer.
I have to say that the one area that has me concerned is catching a “common virus” from someone that has had the mRNA vaccine. Like I’ve said before the mRNA technology is phenomenal but there are still a lot of unanswered questions and lack of long term studies. I don’t spend anytime worrying about it but is is still a concern especially when a drug is modifying ones DNA and changing the makeup of spike proteins. Could “technology” modify the common cold to the point that it just never goes away once you get it? I know something like that sounds preposterous but stranger things have happened and when you start messing with a living creatures DNA nothing is beyond the realm of possibilities…
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Didn’t even bother reading the article because I don’t believe them anyway! Fact is that the J&J jab does not do what they want because it is not mRNA…. I’m not a jab person but they’ve tried to demonize this vaccine from the start while pushing the others…. Things that make you go hmmmmm???
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/cdc-advisory-panel-meet-severe-condition-linked-jjs-covid-vaccine
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What our Federal Government is doing is criminal! Controlling the supply chain of useful drugs to the American public is what socialist and communist do!😡😡😡
https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-surgeon-general-says-biden-admin-is-actively-preventing-distribution-of-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-amid-omicron-surge
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The official covid narrative takes a lot of work to fight beginning with the lies which have been told from day 1 such as Fauci lying about funding the very research that made the disease transmissible to people. If you are using google as a search engine then these results will likely be hidden so try using duckduckgo.com instead, but here's a link to one of the Matrix news sites where NIH only admits this because of a freedom of information act request forced the information from them:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nih-admits-fauci-lied-about-funding-wuhan-gain-of-function-experiments/ar-AAPLZIe
For those who don't know, gain of function, is the research which imparts the ability of the virus to become more infectious to people. The above should be a tremendous wake up call to everyone in the world who is not stuck in the information matrix bubble created for them. Almost all scientists agree there is no legitimate reason for this research other than development of a bioweapon. For those who aren't alarmed by the first lies told above then the plandemic orchestrator's think you should stay in their matrix and think you deserve the fate they give you. For all other's please read on; I'll make it short. The above news is just from this past October. The following is also just from October but how many have heard of this paper coming out of Columbia University? This paper estimates 146,000 - 187,000 deaths in a 7 month period between February 2021 through August 2021 and isn't a surprise to most of us who know vaers is under-reported by at least a factor of 10.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355581860_COVID_vaccination_and_age-stratified_all-cause_mortality_risk
By contrast I think Vaers is reporting just under 20,000 to date through most of December but one can look for themselves using the link below.
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
For those who have had the attention span who have read until the end of this post, thank you. I need to give credit to Dr Peter McCullough for fighting the good fight and who you can find the above information and more from his weekly podcast at the following link:
https://www.americaoutloud.com/covid-q-a-with-dr-peter-mccullough-12/
His podcast can be listened to while driving (if your state allows) or while working at the house etc. Dr Mccullough was on Joe Rogan recently; many may have heard of this interview since it's almost famous now. Although matrix news and other matrix media outlets have demonised Alex Jones the following interview of Dr Mccullough on infowars is also extremely interesting and informative:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-is-a-test-of-wills-says-dr-mccullough-must-see-covid-powerpoint/
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Remember that 14 years before we ever heard of Covid, a Biologist, in China, gave a talk to a group of scientists, etc. explaining that bio-warfare, was the only feasible way to take over the U.S. They had to be careful to leave all our resources in tack. This man was working in Wuhan, at the lab, in a high position, when that darn bat, escaped from the wet market, infected a manual, who then infected humans. I am surety timing of his employment in that lab, was just a fluke..
Kind Dr. F. has been taking monkeys off Monkey Island, in S.C. to continue his studies. Now that he is being watched more carefully, he can always get his hands on some trusting beagles. I could close this with what is just sitting on the tip of my tong, but it would serve no purpose but to get if off my chest...
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Very interesting connection you make there Abigail. Thanks for the thought provoking content. On my last post above I should have stated the 146,000 - 187,00 deaths are vaccine associated deaths as reported in the Columbia University paper and the 20,000 deaths reported in Vaers are likewise vaccine associated. Originally I had posted these as deaths and did not label them as "vaccine associated" and wanted to make sure I did not confuse any readers. I feel it is important to keep in mind even the 20,000 deaths reported in Vaers goes through December whereas the Columbia study only goes through August so the Columbia numbers would likely be quite a bit higher if counted through December as well. This would likely make the undercounting by Vaers around a 20 times undercount.
In contrast a swine flu vaccination program was undertaken in the US during 1976 after the previously unknown bacteria legionella (note this is a bacterium not a virus) killed 34 people and was thought to be a re-emergence of the deadly 1918 swine flu. Consequently the swine vaccination program was begun and managed to vaccinate 45 million Americans before being halted after only 3 deaths of senior citizens who suffered heart attacks after being vaccinated and some cases of Gillian barre in some others. Now here's a reference from History.com documenting these numbers in a peremptory response to those working at fact check sites boasting humanities and computer science degrees. Compare these 3 deaths to the 187,000 above and ask what is going on?
https://www.history.com/news/swine-flu-rush-vaccine-election-year-1976
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This is not mis-management! It is rightfully called population control.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/01/people_are_dying_but_not_the_ones_you_think_for_the_reasons_you_think.html
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Just saw the same article at a different place. Things are not good in Babylon!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid
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Health System in Michigan with over 99% Vaccination Compliance Rate has Nearly 700 Employees Test Positive with COVID-19
“In the last seven days, 686 team members have tested positive for Covid. This is a 3-fold increase since December,” Dr. Adnan Munkarah said on Henry Ford’s website. “We had to temporarily close 97 beds in three of our hospitals, mostly due to staffing challenges.”
To me it can not get any clearer. It appears they got the covid from the shot. How many now will die out suddenly? In 6 years I wonder how many of them will be left alive?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/health-system-michigan-99-vaccination-compliance-rate-nearly-700-employees-test-positive-covid-19/
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Here is some number-crunching. Using natural immunity as a base and the fully vaccinated to mean two mRNA shots, we can conclude the following:
An unassailable stat from the Israelis, which made Fauci change his guidance from "if you are fully vaccinated, you will not catch it" to "if you are fully vaccinated, you can still catch it and spread it," was that the fully vaccinated in Israel were 6–13 times more likely to catch the D variant than the naturally immune population.
And the first decent-sized sample regarding omicron shows that the fully vaccinated are 2.61 times more likely to catch omicron than the D variant.
So 2.61 times 6 is 15.66. And 2.61 times 13 is 33.93.
Anyone with a numerical brainstem can see that the more people vaccinate, the more likely they will get sick from a variant.
This seems to comport with Nobel Laureate virology professor Luc Montagnier's conclusion that it is the vaccine that is creating the variants.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/01/are_the_vaccinated_harming_their_immune_systems.html
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And YET. Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, Eta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda were ALL discovered BEFORE vaccines were released. It doesn't take a Nobel Prize to Google something. He should try it.
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Well worth the read especially if you have children! This is simply chilling from the “inventor” of mRNA…. What have we allowed them to do to us and our children!!!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/think-twice-you-vaccinate-your-kids-dr-robert-malone-warns-parents-covid-19-shots
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There is so much data being released on Covid I’m not going to continue to share links. I would strongly suggest going to Zerohedge.com and read the articles. Things are coming in fast and furious from many different angles including DARPA and NIH. Other areas covered are regarding the effectiveness of Ivermectin, spoiler alert, IT WORKS!
Sometimes you have to wade through the BS but overall their material is usually supported by evidence or even credible whistleblowers and documents.
Rest assured, the virus is very real but it’s looking more and more like we have been scammed. The scariest part to me is that it doesn’t appear to be about the money! If that is the case then we can expect the worst case scenario, Enter Bill Gates stage left😳!
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So at bedtime last night, turned on my last news of the evening. Come to find out from several good sources that the booster not only does not work, it is a magnet for Omicron. So glad we didn't get the booster for our granddaughter. Her mother had her vaxed, even though she had the virus. I would not vax a twelve year old for this virus in the first place.
Dr. Paul really gave Fauci the what for, once again today. Fauci said Dr. Paul was going to get him killed, that he was getting death threats. Kinda like the actual shooting at the Republican ball practice...Oh wait, that was for real!
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Senator Paul is correct with the charges leveled against Fauci and the likes! I would love to see him tried for “Crimes Against Humanity” but with the oligarchs in charge that is wishful thinking I’m afraid! Since the first Marxist was elected in 2008 they have been purging our military of consciousness Patriots and replacing them with political ideologues that have no respect for our Constitution and our sense of morality. To say that the state of our current military is not “your father’s military” is an understatement!
It’s going to get worse before it gets much worse!!!
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FREE COVID TESTS!!! Now available on line, get four free.
They will START SHIPPING the end of January, soo maybe February.
hash tag #Too Little Too Late Biden
I am betting 2/4 will give false positive, one will give a false negative and the one you never get around to using will be spot on.... Signing out as Negative Nellie..
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I've been pricked 3 times, and so far my 5G cell signal has improved and I've bought more Microsoft stock. My gf and I did come down with omicron last week, but compared to the unvaxed family members we got it from or my unvaxed friend who just got out of the ICU from covid (41, very healthy), it was just another cold.
I even had a non-covid/flu cold 3 weeks ago (I know, one after the other..) that was way worse.
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This is the greatest scam in world history. It would make Bernie Madoff blush.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/wayne-root-covid-storyline-greatest-scam-world-history-truth-pandemic-vaccinated-vaccine-killing-us/
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This is the greatest scam in world history. It would make Bernie Madoff blush.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/wayne-root-covid-storyline-greatest-scam-world-history-truth-pandemic-vaccinated-vaccine-killing-us/
I quoted the source I had for soccer casualties in the last few days. The number he quoted here was much higher. I’m curious where he got that info.
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Well I will be getting healthier rather I want to or not. M&M's going woke. Now Hershey is firing anyone who won't give in and take the shot. Even going so far as to ask if they would give it to their small children if not they are out. I love chocolate it's going to be hard to replace.
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I personally would not give it to small children. Our granddaughter, who came from PA. was faxed by her mother before she came. I would not have done it. She also had one year of virtually no learning, with no home supervision....want to know how that went?
I am going to miss those M.& M.s also!
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M&Ms are made by M&M/Mars not Hershey.
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JoeBob, You saved me from dropping one of my many vices...Thanks, guy!
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Dr Peter McCullough is a world renowned cardiologist being the most published cardiologist in history. Despite his active research he still maintains a practice in Dallas Texas which occupies about 50% of his time. Now compare that to Dr Fauci who reportedly has never treated a patient in the past 50 years. Yet Fauci funded the research that most informed people believe, and data point to, developed the covid pandemic. Consider that Dr Mccullough isn't being interviewed by the matrix news media on his views despite his expertise as a cardiologist. I know matrix news has painted Alex Jones in a bad light but check out this interview:
https://banned.video/watch?id=61fd8fe121e86e0353fc96c6
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“The statistics are this, and the science is this: the wild variant was 1,000 times less deadly for kids than 80-year-olds. It’s been progressively less dangerous to the delta to the omicron. The kids really as far as whether you vaccinate your kids — that’s up to you. But there should be no mandate. And I think particularly young males, the evidence is pretty strong now that the more vaccines you give young males, the higher their incidence of myocarditis.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/02/05/rand-paul-mask-mandates-about-submission-collectivism/
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weird, taking a nap is also 1,000 X more deadly for 80 year olds than kids
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Joebob M&M's have gone woke and Hershey forcing vax on workers and their small children. I know they are made by different companies but both off my list.
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Ok how many people will fall for this?
https://youtu.be/vmxNs1fMzl0
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Joebob M&M's have gone woke and Hershey forcing vax on workers and their small children. I know they are made by different companies but both off my list.
Yep they went “woke” as well…. I wonder if they even realize that they are not even real “persons”🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10423249/M-Ms-woke-new-versions-characters-reflect-dynamic-progressive-world.html
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is weighing changes to vaccine guidance to increase the time between doses due to the risk of heart inflammation.
In a November update, the CDC said the agency and its partners were monitoring reports of myocarditis and pericarditis following coronavirus vaccination.
“Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. In both cases, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger,” the website read.
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2022/02/08/cdc-weighs-increasing-timing-vaccines-cut-risk-heart-inflammation/
Now, even the CDC admits there's a problem w/ the vaxxes, they just won't admit how big it really is. It mostly affects young, military aged men.
When the vaxxes destroy our military & the rest of the world's military, China will have the strongest military in the world, if they keep their military healthy through isolation, not requiring vaxxes, or natural immunity. The chicoms may also give their soldiers Ivermectin & Hydroxychloroquine to keep them healthy.
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I haven't found the full video, this clip is making the rounds
was alex jones right again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwH2le9uskk
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What Do They Know that We Don’t?… China Has Not Administered a Single mRNA Vaccine to Any of Its 1.45 Billion Citizens
China has a population of 1.45 billion people.
In the 14 months since, more than 1 billion people worldwide have received more than 2 billion shots of mRNA.
None are in China.
What does this suggest to you ? To me it is proof that this is Biological Warefare. We just killed off our military ! ! And millions of US citizens.......
Why do you think the US Government is bringing in Millions across the Southern border without giving them the vaccine. They are the replacements...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/know-dont-china-not-administered-single-mrna-vaccine-1-45-billion-citizens/
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Here’s the strongest proof yet that vitamin D stops covid in its tracks
Israeli scientists say they have collected the most convincing evidence yet that vitamin D is a powerfully effective remedy for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19).
Researchers from Bar Ilan University and the Galilee Medical Center say that vitamin D is so effective at preventing serious illness or death that it can now be predicted how a person will fare based on nothing more than his age and vitamin D levels.
https://www.dcclothesline.com/2022/02/10/heres-the-strongest-proof-yet-that-vitamin-d-stops-covid-in-its-tracks/
If you are exposed, take some zinc and Quercetin in addition to the daily vitamin D.
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I absolutely hate it when someone writes an article like that and gives no sources. The fact that the author has won a lot of awards and is respected helps, but still won’t pass muster for me. So then I have to do my own research. So I confirmed that China is NOT using any mRNA vaccines (not made in China). They say they are developing their own. But I’ve NEVER known China to have a problem stealing technology from the west. Why do they have a problem with our mRNA vaccine? I don’t buy the “it’s a matter of national pride” thing.
Here are three of the sources I found that support the story.
Fortune.com (1/26/2022), CNN (12/13/2021), Associated Press (April, 2021).
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I would probably be skeptical of this claim if it was not from my wife’s best friend down in Florida:
Awhile back she got her first dose of the vaccine. Within 10 days she was in ICU and even called my wife to tell her goodbye, yes she thought she was going to die. She then lost 60 pounds and her hair fell out! She now wears a $600.00 wig…
I don’t know whether any of this was caused by the vaccine or the Covid??? There are many strange phenomenon health wise going on. Many people are getting strange illnesses not related to Covid and there have been many documented claims that our death rates have seen a 40% increase than before the pandemic? I quit believing in coincidence years ago…. I’m sure the uptick in deaths will be attributed to being locked down, missing wellness checks, suicide and an increase in obesity. I don’t know what the causes are but I do know that what is going on is not normal and we may never get the “real” explanation!
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so safe and effective that the data needs to be hidden?
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/cdc-says-unreleased-vax-data-not-yet-ready-prime-time-and-might-be-misinterpreted
trust the science
well.....
just trust us because we said so
but you don't get to see for yourself
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.... and there have been many documented claims that our death rates have seen a 40% increase than before the pandemic? I quit believing in coincidence years ago….
You don't have to be an Einstein to connect the dots.
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Here's a good explanation (with CDC data!) for that troublesome heart issue showing 132 times background. This means we are seeing 132 times the cases we normally see.
Keep in mind this is only one vaccine associated toxicity. There are many others.
https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/jama-mrna-vaccines-elevate-myocarditis:7
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I'm sorry the above is a JAMA paper based on Vaers data NOT CDC data, but the CDC frequently uses CDC data. The following link is CDC data showing natural immunity twice as protective than the vaccine, and the covid recovered person gets NO added benefit from the vaccine after having had covid.
https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/the-covid-recovered-are-better-protected:2
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Well I guess no one ever saw this coming…. /s🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Even though many were warned they believed the government…. That was their 1st mistake!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-goes-liver-cells-and-converted-dna-study
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The CDC admits that the PCR test cannot differentiate between SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.
I reported several months ago that the “health authorities” had reached this decision but were withholding its implementation until the end of 2021. They needed the fake test to keep the fear going in order to achieve as much vaccination, and therefore as much profit, as possible.
This padding of numbers also resulted in the disappearance of flu deaths in the US. This was dishonest and immoral. The medical elites behind this decision should be put on trial.
The CDC disappeared all of the flu deaths for 2020 and 2021.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/tricks-cdc-child-flu-deaths-continued-mysteriously-disappear-2021-lying/
Wow, at least the covid vax cured the flu!!!
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Interesting !
Pandemic of The Vaccinated: The Most Vaccine Compliant Areas of the US Experience a Significantly Higher Rate of Covid Infections Than the Least Vaccinated Areas
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/ready-pandemic-vaccinated-vaccine-compliant-areas-us-experience-significantly-higher-rate-covid-infections-least-vaccinated-areas/
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You are correct RWS, I’ve been following that and it’s been pretty consistent worldwide! My sister in law has been vaxxed and boosted and has now had the CCP flu 3 times😳🤦♂️🤦♂️!
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Interesting article. My IT guy here at work that’s helping me with the infrastructure of the new warehouse is on his third round with Covid. He first came down with Covid a month after his first shot. He came down with it a second time about three weeks after his second shot. And you guessed it. He took the booster about a month ago. He’s now out of work for another two weeks after a third positive test. Just strange.
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I had the woo hoo flu when it first came out before any “vaccine” was available. When the vaccines WERE available, I insisted on the J&J since it is a stem cell originated vaccine and not an mRNA vaccine. We were required to get vaccinated for work. I never had a hint of Chinavirus again. Now my natural immunity might be off the chain since I’m around it so much and am exposed all the time (and drink lots of Tang), but I have had coworkers that got the mRNA vaccines and DID contract the virus more than once. This is a personal experience only, but when combined with other “personal experiences “, a clear picture does seem to emerge.
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Judging by China’s massive lockdown in Shanghai I’m having the same feeling that I had back when this whole thing started. If you remember back then China locked down tens of millions just like now forbidding them from leaving their apartments only this time they are not even allowing them to even leave for food and people are starving!
Just like when this started I’m getting a bad feeling that there is much more to the CCP virus than the Chinese are telling the world? Their Zero Covid policy and the way they are instituting it tells me there’s more to this thing than they are sharing? Are there long term affects for people that get it that they know about and are saying nothing? I know quite a number of people that’s had CCP Flu and have since had other mysterious illnesses! I have 2 male friends early 60’s that had CCP Flu and have gotten sick and the doctors could not determine the cause. They got Very sick, lost 30-35 lbs in a couple weeks, hallucinations, could barely get out of bed type illness! Btw one was vaxxed the other was not. Female friend around 60 lost all of her hair after getting CCP Flu! Another female friend early 70’s got sick and they never could figure out what it was? Her husband said she got so bad he was making final arrangements before she suddenly started getting better.
So many unanswered questions but I just simply feel there is much more to this than the Chinese are sharing!!!
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-04-12/somethings-rotten-state-shanghais-latest-lockdowns
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Don't worry. It will show up here just before the Fall election and the election will be called off. The people in control can not afford to loose.
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I thought this thread was bumped because of the million doses moderna just recalled
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Just caught up on this thread from the last time I posted! Here are *my familiy's* experiences... immediate, extended, and church.
There are 24 of us.
21 are unvaxxed; 4 are vaxxed
Of the vaxxed 1 had C before the V and has not had it again even though is a nurse (she did not contract it from the hospital either when she did get it). 2 others got it ~5 months after getting 2nd V.
Of the 21 non-vaxxed - 9 got it and only 1 of those was a child with very mild symptoms.
Of the 9 that were sick, co-morbities ran rampant - insulin-dependent diabetes, asthma, obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, cancer, heart disease, over 70 years old, addiction, and more. None of us were sicker than a bad cold. 2 of us developed true pneumonia, versus covid lung, about 2 weeks post-infection - which is on the normal end for me to develop walking pneumonia annually and a bad case every five or six years.
I treated all with aspirin, chloroquine or quercitin and zinc, D, and high C immediately. Nurse practitioner daughter-in-law said they treat with ivermectin in the hospital she works at but only if you're sick enough to get admitted. As research and use in other countries shows, effectiveness wanes the longer one takes to start taking the med, so it's only doing some good rather than lots of good.
Our extended family though hasn't necessarily fared as well. One died of covid protocol while one died following the V from a stroke at a young age. Very few extended family members have taken it and those that did, only one got it due to doc rec, the rest got it due to work mandates.
Our church family: 90% of the 18+ congregation is vaxxed and all of them in this one 3 month window in the spring of 2021. Many many many sudden health problems in this last year and only in those that got vaxxed. It's almost too much to recount to be honest but it ranges from never-ending unexplained, or maybe unidentified is a better descriptor, illnesses & ailments to almost instant onset of severe rheumatoid arthritis to sudden huge cancers to too many strokes to count - and all sorts of things in between. It's heartbreaking. There are a few that have suffered these severe and sometimes debilitating effects that were loudly and proudly pro-mandates that are suddenly pro-medical freedom.
A few friends in different parts of Georgia have relayed similar tales of their congregations. But those are "second-hand stories," not my own personal experience.
Someone mentioned athletes upthread. FIFA has numbers out. December 2021 deaths across the FIFA World during practice & play equaled the average *annual* death rate they usually have. I have a couple lists of death and injury (I.e., heart attack on field, sudden permanent heart damage that ends a career early, etc) from around the world and across a vast array of ages and sports. The numbers are unprecedented from what I've been able to find on past years' numbers.
If anything, I trust even less than I did before and that wasn't much to begin with.
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40% surge of working age (18 - 64 year old) deaths for 2021. Shocking! The attached video is long but well worth the listen for those with the attention span. It's a good listen while driving or working along.
https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/40-surge-in-working-age-deaths:4
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My wife had this video playing when I came in the house a while ago. She said you just have to see this. She was right!
https://odysee.com/World-Premiere-Watch-the-Water---The-Documentary---Dr-Ardis-:0ceca49e34f7a36a534b362dae41be84c9e108a1
https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/snake-venom-and-covid-19?s=r
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There's lots of issues with the claims made in the video. Take lots of time to look into the rebuttals by trusted people. It had been the most thorough theory I had heard to date but I still had questions. Those questions are still being answered but those answers are causing more holes than filling.
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Very interesting article on Covid and vaccine status using Walgreens very on documented numbers. This is scary…. I think we’ve been scammed! I wonder what the long term ramifications will be? Time will once again tell…. Tik Tok Tik Tok…
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-walgreens-recorded-who-tested-positive-for-covid-and-the-results-might-surprise-you
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that article was written by putin
the truth is that without the vax, all of those people would have died during the winter of death and darkness
thanks be to phizer
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Looks like the FAA has seen the heart damage caused by the Covid Vaccine!
“In the October 2022 version of the FAA Guide for Aviation Medical Examiners, the FAA quietly widened the EKG parameters beyond the normal range (from a PR max of .2 to unlimited). And they didn’t widen the range by a little. They widened it by a lot. It was done after the vaccine rollout,” Kirsch wrote.
https://welovetrump.com/2023/01/17/faa-quietly-changes-health-requirements-for-pilots-according-to-steve-kirsch/?utm_source=PTN&utm_medium=mixed&utm_campaign=PTN
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I’m not sure if this article is satire or not but it is awesome! Don’t really want to spoil it but it’s basically blaming the unvaccinated for not stopping people from getting the mRNA vaccines🤔😳😎. A must read especially if you are a Pure Blood😎
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/they-knew-why-didnt-unvaccinated-do-more-warn-us
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The Project Veritas video of the Pfizer executive is pretty damning if you can find it. Seems that big tech is trying to censor the video. Watched it on Tucker tonight and it is truly messed up…. We, I’m speaking of humanity, are not heading into a very nice place😳🤔😳…